Ant-Man Quantumania has a Terrible Script

Another problem with the movie is that Janet/Michelle Pfifer is so damn reluctant to give the family ANY information that could help them. A hour into the movie they’re still asking “who are you running from/what are you scared of” and she just keeps avoiding the question for the sake of the revelation that it’s Kang (which we already know because he’s plastered on the marketing bigger than Wasp, the other main protagonist.) And they keep letting her get away with “I don’t wanna talk about it” when that makes no sense considering you have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of the type of threat he is. She knows he’s a threat to not only earth, not only the quantumverse, not only the universe, not only time, but a threat to the ENTIRE multiverse. But I guess that’s a touchy subject shrugs

The whole movie could have been avoided if Janet just said: “Hey when I was in the quantem realm I met a dangerous man that wants to get out so don’t go there because he is really strong”

Majors was the only one who was putting up a fight against the script. Cassie made no sense. Her dad saved the world, was gone for YEARS, and now wants to be there for her, and she…is nasty and critical of him for it? WTF?

It's sad to see an amazing franchise like the MCU fall down after years of producing very good movies. I hope they get everything together and fix the MCU with phase 5, though Antman wasn't the best start..

I can't help feel that the trailers lied to us, or at least this was a different movie at one point. In the second trailer they present the conflict of Scott considering helping Kang because Kang is willing to give Scott the thing he has lost more of than anything in the world: Time with his daughter. "I don't care who this guy is, I've just lost so much. He can give us us a second chance" But in the final film Kang just threatens Scott with killing Cassie and that's it. There's no conflict between Scott and Cassie at all, or any character conflict in general

The ants defeating Kang in the MCU is a real “Fonzie jumps the shark” kind of deal. like what is this. I’m supposed to feel threatened by a guy who was bested by techno-ants?? absolutely insane writing. A panel of toddlers could workshop something better than this!

After watching The Last of Us and a lot of Craig Mazin’s breakdowns, I realized I will never watch anything the same way again, everything matters, every detail, every line, every character. The MCU needs a big change

It really bugged that Kang( who claimed to have beaten thor in another universe)/was beaten by ANTMAN in a fist fight😭. Wasn't he supposed to be the next thanos?

I wish Kang would have won. Maybe he gets to kill Cassie in front of Scott, maybe he kills Scott, maybe he even escapes. I wish they'd shown us Kang in the probability field (which i think was a good not to Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy), and how he wins against all the possibilities.

The problems with some of these films has always been there - the dialogue being the same across all the films and the humour has always been tired imo

That's what happens when you get a Rick and Morty writer who never worked on a film before and use ANT-MAN to dictate the next few years of MCU. And the rest of Phase 5 is too far along for any kind of significant course correction.

bro thought it was so bad, that he excluded Wasp from the title

We’re not growing out of it. The quality really has dropped significantly. There’s a fundamental difference in how these movies are written now. They’re not written with care anymore. This movie in particular felt like it didn’t even have a director. Things just happen and then the movie ends.

I think the main reason people are more forgiving towards this movie (and most of what Marvel has been churning out lately) is that Disney has conditioned everyone to value spectacle over substance. There's no other logical way I can think of to why people refuse to call out bad scriptwriting and flat characters

I recently rewatched Civil War and realized that those movies despite being MCU summer blockbusters, actually felt so personal, so authentic. Every action scene was almost like a statement. The end fight where Cap nearly decapitated Tony, felt so raw, like there were actual high-stakes despite the fight not being some cataclysmic world ending event. This goes on to show the kind of a monstrous oddity No Way Home was despite being in Phase 4, as that movie too felt personal. It was about plain old-fashioned revenge, not some convoluted plan of multiverse domination.

I can’t believe I’m now part of the alleged “Toxic Fandom” but I totally agree! I literally fell asleep in the movie and could only manage to stay for 1 post credit forgoing the Loki post credit scene, this is the 1st time since I watched Ironman in 2008 that I’ve done that! It seems the MCU now belongs to the public at large and not the fans that built the place!

I legit was annoyed when his daughter just said “stop being a dick “ and then he just changes like can we have a serious conversation?! My friend and I literally looked at each other and said really!?? Also could Janet stop to to explain….FUCKIN ANYTHING?!

My big problem was that it made no sense for kang to lose. They built him up as this absolute monster but then he got beat by antman I mean please how did my guy kill Thor and lose to ant man

The same writer is writing the next Avengers movie💀

You know I just realized something. In the trailers it was implied that Scott would be convinced to work for Kang after he offers him the the opportunity to make up for lost time with his daughter, basically he'd be given the same deal Kang offered Janet. Having been incarcerated and then trapped in the Quantum Realm for 5 years he effectively missed her entire childhood and now he's watching her follow in his footsteps, making the same mistakes he did when he was younger. It would be a much better conflict if Scott had to come to terms with the fact that he missed out on her growing up and that he had to accept things as they were despite their relationship not being ideal. Too bad that isn't the movie we got. What a missed opportunity...