My Two Problems with Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania

This movie felt like it would’ve been a pretty good plot for a Fantastic Four movie where you replace the Quantum Realm with the Negative Zone. It just felt like the settings and plot clashed with Ant-Man as a character. Half of the fun is seeing him grow and shrink in relation to everyday objects and situations. And you can’t do any of that when the entire world is unfamiliar

The movie would have been great if Marvel Studios did the write thing and let Nando make “Ant-Man & The Wasp & The Ant-Man”.

Did anyone else think that the ending was cheap where the portal closes with Scott and Hope stuck in the quantum realm but then 3 seconds later it's just back online? I was already surprised there wasn't at least a minor major death like Hank or Janet but then it seemed like nothing of consequence happened. We learned Kang was dangerous and there are plenty of him coming, which is probably the same information we're going to learn in Loki S2

Evangeline Lilly didn’t get NEARLY as much backlash for her political views as Letitia Wright did. Evangeline even doubled down and said Marvel respects her political views. Whereas with Letitia she apologized and got vaccinated. News publications started spreading rumors about her on set that weren’t true. I think the distinction between the two actresses should be addressed.

Quantumania needed to be weirder. Also, this film did the thing that really bugs me in lots of movies. "I have a secret that would be really important to share but THERE'S NO TIME!" There would definitely be time.

My two big problems with the movie were that I really felt that Kang needed to win and Scott needed to die to properly set up the stakes and threat of Kang for the rest of phase five and six and neither of those things happened. Kang was beat by a bunch of ants and basically nothing changed from the beginning to the end of the movie which I felt was rather disappointing.

I can't believe Spider-Man and Black Window came back to form the Bug Brigade. Most accurate comic adaptation to date.

The trailers for quantumania really made it seem like Kang was going to offer Scott a chance to be with his daughter during the snap. (Like almost directly said that was going to happen in the movie) I thought this was really interesting for 2 reasons. 1: it gives Scott a character arc, being tempered with an understandable yet ultimately selfish want. He would make a decision to go against his better judgment for something he wants, and ultimately give up the opportunity to be there for his daughter for the greater good. And 2: it makes Kang more interesting. It shows that he’s smart and knows how to manipulate people, that he isn’t just brute strength. But then in the actual movie, Kang is just like “do this bad thing for me or I’ll kill your daughter”, which is so much less interesting. It takes away Scott’s agency. He isn’t making a decision to do something bad, he’s being forced to. He doesn’t learn anything or grow.

My biggest issue with the movie, and on the whole I enjoyed it, was that it had a perfect ending where the heroes had just made the big sacrifice play, with real emotional stakes, and it was all reversed literally thirty seconds later. And not just in real time, which would have been bad enough, but in movie time as well. Zero time passed between the portal closing and Cassy reopening it.

I feel like the Conqueror variant of Kang should’ve been saved for and introduced in Fantastic Four. Like have He Who Remains in Loki, M.O.D.O.K in Quantumania and then Kang the Conqueror in Fantastic Four. This could’ve also made the conflict of the FF film more personal since Kang is a descendant of Reed.

MODOK should have been the main antagonist with Kang commanding him behind the scenes. Darren Cross as a character should definitely have a lot of things to unpack when meeting Hank, Hope, and Scott again after being horribly deformed. With MODOK, the stakes should have been more personal because MODOK/Darren would definitely be focused on vengeance. He was literally left to die...and it bugs me that neither Hope nor Hank even cared when he dies in the movie. When MODOK said "Tell me what to be" after being beaten by Cassie, you could see a glimpse of a good story idea there. At this point, Darren Cross is a completely broken man who doesn't even consider himself human anymore (and can you blame him? He lost everything). IMO this interaction should've been with either Hope or Hank, someone who knew Darren as a good man before the Pym Particles started affecting his mind in Ant Man 1. When Kang shows himself at the end and absolutely bodies Ant Man, it would be more believable for MODOK to have his redemption arc and holds Kang back, sacrificing himself as Ant Man and the Pyms escape from the Quantum realm.

Real talk your pitch for 'Ant-Man & The Wasp & Ant-Man' was one of the best MCU fan pitches that I've ever seen!

Yes, Paul Rudd's charm is too much to resist. But he's never given the same amount of materials to Chris Evans or RDJ for Cap or Tony. Hell, you could say that for all the Antman cast.

So much of the fun of the Ant Man movies is the "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" aspect of him shrinking in the real world, setting this mostly in the Quantum Realm really loses a lot and it sorely misses it.

It would have been so much better if they completely hid kang from any of the advertising for this film and promoted it as a MODOK villain film only. In the film they kept not saying Kangs name which just frustrated me because everyone knew he was the main antagonist in the film, it’s been forced down our throats. Imagine how much better it would have been if they kept referring to ‘him’ and the audience think they mean MODOK and then when you finally meet MODOK you find out he is just a solider for a Kang reveal at the end.

What's crazy is that Modok was the original villain but feige and Reed wanted kang

Your idea about having Kang pulling strings behind the scenes and having MODOK as the main villain was so good that it made me annoyed with where they went in this movie. Better to have Kang being busy conquering elsewhere and slowly setting him as the big bad like we saw with Thanos. Slow and deliberate.

This Kang is definitely not dead. My theory is that he's going through the Probability Storm like Scott was and it's going to drive him slightly insane, but mold him into He Who Remains, who is then destined to set up the TVA, etc. The characters are going to realize time is a big ol loop and use a macguffin to break the loop or reboot the universe.

I definitely think Kang was a threat. He didn't really get defeated by Ant-Man and Wasp. The hyper intelligent ants swarmed him with whatever tech they had and managed to damage his armor off-screen. Sure, it would've been nice to see how that played out, but you can't tell me for a second that Scott, Hope and Cassie were doing anything to him in his suit

"Having Iger back seems like a good sign" As soon as he came back, he fired 7000 people and started development of Frozen 3 and Toy Story 5. This man is as much of a penny pincher as Chapek was