Let's Discuss the Return of Shane Dawson...

I’m so happy you dropped Manny MUA name. The fact that he has a podcast where he so proudly holds accountable the Ace family and other youtubers but stays silent and promotes new James Charles merch. I was so disappointed because I liked his podcast but it seems hypocritical now.

i SWEAR i remember shane saying in his 2020 "apology" video that he "should've lost his career" for the things he's done and that he was ok with losing it. him coming back just proves he meant literally nothing in that apology and he doesn't truly see why people were mad in the first place

SOO proud of you for calling Manny out even tho you’re friendly with him! He should not be supporting JC and I’m glad you did not hesitate!!

Oh snap I was so hoping you were going to talk about this! Even though it’s painful to even look at that dudes face honestly

I can't stop thinking about Franchesca Ramsey and how hard she tried to hold Shane accountable back in the day and how horribly his stans harassed her. I think part of why some of the older stans still protect him is because they're protecting themselves from accountability. They don't want to face the fact that they were on the wrong side and were bullies. edit - I misspelt Franchesca's first name! Thank you for all the love!

As a black queer person who has literally been that little boy that people bullied when I pointed out the emperor was naked my point of watching this was to see how you explained cancel culture and this time around i can say I completely agree but also as a black and queer person I'm not disappointed just numb and I am completely aware that people can make whole ass career off of making my exsisitence harder for a " joke " but I do appreciate hearing other people opinions on the matter regardless

Honestly I didn’t realise how long Shane had been gone, I could really go forever w/o him on here

Honestly, I have given up on the idea of “cancelling” someone. The people who end up facing real consequences are few and far between and its usually not for racism or sexual assault because society does not care about those issues. People cancelled Brooke Houts but Jeffree, Shane and James still have careers. Now I just worry about who I personally support and if I can sleep at night supporting them. I’m no longer trying to convince anyone. I just notice who supports who, because birds of a feather flock together. I also notice how people are quicker to cancel black women for way less, i.e Jackie Aina. Its funny

the thing that bothers me re: "you just wanna cancel them to ruin their lives/careers!" is that... that doesnt happen anyway. not being able to post on this platform and make millions of dollars is not life ruining for these people. most of them have already made their millions, theyll be fine. leaving the platform is LITERALLY the least they could do.

i appreciate you saying something about Manny supporting James. I know you guys are friendly with each other and it can be hard to call out less than ideal behavior from someone you know and respect

YES! Nick’s video breakdowns are the best! They don’t just attack Shane and approach it from a technical standpoint as well.

I feel like Shane takes advantage of the letting the heat die down and figuratively come in like a shy little boy with his head down asking us if we’re still mad at him with this 🥺🥺🥺 usual sad look on his face. He knows what he’s doing.

An issue I have with some of his supporters is how they keep trying to say that all of Shane's past racist and bigoted humor were just jokes and he's moved on. He didn't just do a bad Wendy Williams impression in blackface, he deliberately mocked Black people's appearance and perpetuated harmful stereotypes for the sake of comedy. Ex-friends have come out and said Shane and his mother made racist statements at the time. MacDoesIt spoke to Shane about how he should include more POCs in his series and claimed Shane had a panic attack during the conversation and needed Ryland to calm him down. Also, there are many things Shane hasn't acknowledged. He never apologized to Willow Smith, addressed the allegations Tati made against him, the skits he did with the Fine Bros., or apologized for his outburst on Instagram where he dismissed Tati's s*xual assault (I'm not saying Tati is unproblematic but that was not a good day for Shane). He's still friends with several very problematic people that no true empath would ever actually associate with. His cancellation was never just based upon old jokes. As a former fan of him, I feel very disappointed in him.

Let's be honest, Garrett, Andrew and Drew were the reason we really watched his videos

"I hate the term 'cancel culture' because it has become meaningless and a way for influencers martyr themselves" YES! True on youtube, true everywhere else.

If it wasn’t for the last time Shane got “canceled” I would probably still be watching him. But because of people holding him accountable, I refuse to watch his videos or support him in any way

I don’t even want to “cancel” Shane, I want him to be unable to hurt more people. I want him to stop having access to minors, I want him to stop being in the public eye. He could even do social media work behind the scenes, he could be a manager for (adult) creators. I just want him to stop trying to make his horrendous actions go away.

So something you missed about The Emperor’s New Cloth is that the Emperor was told only “wise people” can see them, and he was too embarrassed to say he couldn’t, and so were all the folks in the town. I think that part of being what Shane did that was so awful is that it was saying the same thing about morality. If you don’t see my apology is really me and that I’ve grown YOU are the problem- You are not moral and You don’t let people grow

Honestly this video sums up how I feel about Trisha paytas. As someone in the lgbt community I’ve watched her come out as gay, as trans, as bisexual, as non binary, as a freaking chicken nugget etc and it completely just invalidates all of the struggles and hardships people like us go through. I feel like some straight people will see her and think the whole coming out concept is just one giant joke and something you do on a whim depending on what your sexuality or identity of the day may be. Oh but then suddenly Trisha is back on everyone’s good list because she decided to change directions from spitting on my community to suddenly calling out OTHER problematic youtubers like James Charles and then suddenly people loved her again because she became the queen of calling out problematic people to deflect from herself…seriously sometimes I feel like I’m in the matrix when it comes to Trisha and I’ve taken the red pill and I’ve woken up to all the bullshit, but everyone else around me has taken the blue pill and is looking at me like “what are you even talking about there’s nothing wrong”. it’s so frustrating at times, Trisha is someone I believe truly needs to be deplatformed because she has made a career of mocking entire groups of people and using them for clout and she’s STILL doing it.

Actually OBSESSED with everything Nick DiRamio. Catching up on all of their old content was a painful adjustment. And Ada on Demand is an absolute gem.