Can Starship Help Make The Artemis Program Better Than Apollo?
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Published 2020-09-13
In Today's video, we’re going to answer the question, why does NASA think Artemis will be a sustainable program when SLS is sooooo dang expensive AND it’ll take at least two launches to get humans and their lunar landers to the moon.
This CAN’T be more sustainable than Apollo, right? Well, we didn’t even begin to scratch the surface of the costs, so today we’re going to really dive into the total costs, including development, infrastructure and hardware by giving SLS and Orion a full cost audit.
But we’ll even show you how the Apollo program and Artemis mission profiles differ including the specific orbits and rendezvous and everything required to get humans to the surface of the moon and even talk about the upgraded safety considerations and hardware involved.
Once we look at all these details, we can answer the question, 50 years later, is the Artemis program actually an improvement over the Apollo program or is NASA going completely in the wrong direction when returning to the moon?
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00:00 - Intro
03:50 - The Hardware
15:55 - The Missions
29:15 - Safety & Upgrades
35:50 - Program Costs
46:20 - Rant
52:25 - The Good Parts of Artemis
55:35 - Conclusion
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All Comments (21)
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‘It’ll be virtually impossible to have cost overruns’ Boeing: Well how we gonna make money now?
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Your rant reminds me of a quote by Gwynne Shotwell: "I don't even know how to spend $400 million on a rocket"
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A friend working at NASA told me "the reason we can't get to the moon now is that the amount of paperwork to be done would be unsurmountable".
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5:11 “you want your lunar lander to be as lightweight as possible”. SpaceX: “ I don’t think so”
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Looking forward to hearing this for the first time since 1972: "Artemis 2, Houston. " "Go ahead, Houston. " "Artemis 2. You are Go for TLI. Over." (that's the Apollo 8 dialogue from 1968 with the spacecraft name updated; the actual Apollo 17 dialog went: "Roger. Guys, I've got the word you wanted to hear; you are Go for TLI - you're Go for the Moon." "Okay, Robert. Understand. America and Challenger with their S-IVB are Go for TLI.")
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SLS looks like if Saturn V and The space shuttle had a baby
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Congrats to SpaceX for winning the contract for the lunar lander!
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I am a great believer in sending an unmanned version to the Moon/Mars landing site ahead of the actual manned flight. This enables the mission to test all the craft involved and also gives reassurance because it would carry ahead lots of food, water, oxygen and equipment needed. It can even mean a spare space craft with engines can be on hand on the target site with spares of everything should they be needed. So the pressure is taken off everyone.
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“Boeing: ‘Failure is not an option, it comes standard in every product.’”
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I can't stop laughing at that clip at 56:54 "We need to test moving the rocket back and forth" "What, build some specialized machine? Sounds difficult" "Nah, I've got a better idea—get me some interns."
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Whelp, you were accurate with the lander animation for the mission profile. Spacex did in fact win the contract.
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Shoutout to KSP for actually teaching me stuff that was required for this video
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"NASA maybe dodged a bullet... while driving a car on two wheels on the edge of a cliff inside of a tornado while buying lotto tickets." That sounds a little more risky than 5%
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This monster of a video is excellent - great work Tim! Loved the rant :)
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43:23 Well done Spacex for getting the Human Landing System contract ! Turns out the developpement will cost only 2.9B, not 17.5B as you predicted since Spacex pays half of it.
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After watching this video you have actually changed my view on SLS and Orion. You also upgraded my view of the commercial crew program as well. Before I thought that SLS and Orion was a money pit and ... IT IS.. BUT.. You make very valid points. I now believe the more the merrier. I just hope that going forward NASA purchases Commercial Crew contracts for 10 years in advance just like they did with the SLS to ensure future administrations cannot cancel or change direction of NASA objectives big time.
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LOL lunar lander size comparison - Starship hello little guys.
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Tim: "it'll be virtually impossible to have cost overruns" NASA: "Hold my beer"
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Yes! Radiation shielding was something I ponder for current future missions into space. It's good to hear that Artemis will have better shields & I hope that'll be a trend going forward. Great animated graphs and stuff too by the way.
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Thanks for your videos Tim, I'm learning some really cool stuff from you, I may just go and sign up for your Patreon to help you make these😁
