The MCU Shows ARE NOT Television...

Have you been enjoying the MCU Disney Plus Shows? Which character should get their own show next??? Can't wait to discuss with all of you!

Makes so much sense! Wandavision had enough to keep interest. No other show kept us so caught up. They all have a few episodes that feel like filler.

The strange thing about most of the shows is that they look like high-caliber shows visually, but when it comes to everything else (writing, acting) they feel more like middle-of-the-road network television. Not great or particularly easy to recommend even, but hard to hate on and generally are good enough to have fandoms.

8 is a decent length and 13 can be the maximum. 6 is like dangerously low.

Moon Knight and WandaVision have been the only two I felt have been great TV shows.

What's interesting about this is that actual episodes in these shows are so rare that when they happen, they feel jarring and out of place. Examples are Loki's Oh No We're Stuck On A Planet episode, Moon Knight's We Just Might Be Dead episode, and Ms. Marvel's History Lesson episode.

It also says a lot when a tv show is watchable multiple times after you’ve watched it once. The only shows I’ve been able to go back and watch more than once where Scarlet Witch and Moon Knight. The others I only watched once and never looked back on. I can’t say the same for the Netflix shows with the exception of iron fist I’ve gone back and was able to watch them multiple times for fun but with these I can’t.

Shield and Daredevil will always be the best Marvel shows for me (with a shout out to Agent Carter and Defenders) they truly feel like TV shows with the “individual episode” feel but also “overarching plot” feel with amazing character development. However, I do really like a lot of the Marvel shows and this video summed up my feelings for them perfectly

This is why Mandalorian and WandaVision are still the most beloved Disney+ series to date. They perfectly blend the cinematic and episodic aspects.

The shows mostly feel like serials, where the end is a “To be continued” type of thing. It just feels like a drawn out story instead of…a tv show. My other problem is that the medium of tv is better suited to smaller stories since it’s a lower budget medium, yet most of these shows still end with the usual high stakes. What’s the point of choosing to watch Moon Knight over an Avengers movie if the climax of both is the same scope?

Hey to be fair, Agents of Shield despite being “family friendly”, got pretty dark in the later seasons. It’s just those first few episodes really, but it does suck that it basically got shafted.

I loved Moon Knight. BUT MANNNNN, I totally would want season 2 to just not be so worried of the Batman comparisons so that we can get some more weekly street level superhero action that people want Moon Knight to be about. Plus from the cheaper street level setting, we can have more episodes explore our characters, esp the moon system

This is great. You are beyond criminally underrated. Keep up the good work.

So far, the Disney+ shows make me wish it wasn't a thing. They make these heros look corny. Same with Star Wars. These characters need the big screen treatment to be great.

Some anime like Dragon Ball and One Piece has this problem. Dragon Ball Z has the most ridiculous case of five minutes of Planet Namek's destruction spanning TEN EPISODES! Each episode is half hour long, so it didn't take five minutes for Namek to blow up, it took FIVE HOURS!

The concept of television has changed a bit since the introduction of the streaming services. We still need episodes to feel distinct, and preferrably for each to have its own conflict. But we have also moved away from the formulaic procedural dramas which have to go through all the beats per each episode. We don't need every regular cast member to have their own arc in every episode. Now we can have episode 5 be specifically about character A, and episode 6 without their appearance, if that serves the overreaching arc the best. The trap in which television shows can fall into is that each episode has tje exact same level of intensity. For example, CWs The Flash or Batwoman had the similar amount of climax in every episode, which made the whole "building towards something" part feel like it's flatlining. Without quieter moments, the climaxes don't pop-up as much. If the character nearly dies in every episode, you get numb to the same level of threat soon. The finale of the series still has to feel like an upgrade, which some of these CW shows didn't do with the optimal level of build-up. MCU shows do tend to go in the opposite direction, with some of the middle episodes feeling like padding and drawing-out the same story arc for too long. They need side-stories in between. Some of my favorite streaming series are the ones that manage to balance out the two: The Boys, Hannibal, Doom Patrol, Daredevil, ect. There each episode feel like it matters without necessarily circling around the same intensity and plot points per episode.

What’s not quite right is the mediocre writing, characterization inconsistencies, lackluster plot, fluctuating morality and questionable narratives and agendas

It’s worth noting that the Netflix shows (back when they were on Netflix) for the most part managed to avoid the problem that you described in this video for the simple reason that they weren’t focused above all else on elevating the connection to the movies.

Amazon, HBO etc. also have series that is in reality only one long movie split up in parts. Jack Reacher, The Boys, The Peacemaker and a long list of others. If you merged all episodes seamlessly, you would never notice that they were actually a TV Series.

Totally agree. On top of it, they are trying to tie these shows into the larger story of the MCU. There's so much set up for future events, that the story you're watching now isn't very satisfying. I like the connectivity, but I wish it was a little looser so that the individual shows and movies could breathe on their own more.