Orphan: First Kill (2022) KILL COUNT

In this episode I brought up how the case of Natalia Grace inspired the movie's development. When I did, I gave the INCORRECT INFORMATION that Grace "wound up being an adult." This is NOT THE CASE - recent DNA evidence has proven that Natalia Grace was, in fact, a child with dwarfism who was sadly abused by her adoptive parents. The DNA evidence confirming this only became available this week (possibly as late as yesterday) and this Kill Count was edited and uploaded back in mid-December, so we didn't have that information at the time. Still, I shouldn't have stated an allegation as a fact. I apologize for getting it wrong and for potentially further spreading that harmful misinformation. More info here: people.com/natalia-grace-dna-test-seemingly-proves…

Just pointing out, Natalia Grace was actually a child, and her abusive adoptive parents claimed she was an adult while knowing she wasn’t

you could also say that the reason she looks more like an adult in the prequel is because she hadn’t perfected the disguise yet

I can actually forgive her looking older in this movie because since this is one of her first times pretending to be a kid she hasn’t mastered the art of looking exactly like one yet.

Isabelle Furhman once again proves to be an amazing actress. It's so cool how they were able to pretty convincingly make her look as young as she was in the first film without any cgi. Make up and practical effects will always be more impressive. Julia Styles was also amazing, and I never would've seen that twist coming.

I thought a prequel could never pull off a twist even almost as wild as the first orphan but I was so wrong

Isabelle Furhman portrayed Esther with ease and compassion. It somehow astounds me how much this film has accumulated in the box office.

The plot twist with Tricia was a brilliant move, because not only was it unexpected, not only did it give Lena a worthy foe, but it makes the movies nature as a prequel more interesting. We knew Tricia, Gunner, and Alan die from the premise of the original movie, but learning about Tricia and Gunnet and what theyd done makes their deaths almost cathartic. And Alan dying of a genuine accident after all is said and done feels appropriately tragic for the sole Allbright who didn't do anything wrong. Ultimately you wind up being okay with Lena getting away with it all scot free because you know she gets hers two years later as justice for people like the detective or Anna, and Tricia and Gunner are so awful even compared to Lena its justice for them to lose to our favorite little serial killer

I have to correct James on this, for the “real life” case of Natalia Grace, she was not actually a grown woman. She was a child with dwarfism that was abused by her adoptive family. The mother conditioned her into believing she was grown and somehow was able to reage her through the court. They abused her severally, pushing her down stairs, beating her, refusing surgeries, making her walk without shoes. And then sent her to live on her own when she was just 7 years old. Natalia’s birth mother has come forward to prove she was a child. And Natalia has even had a genetics/DNA test to prove she is the age her bio mother said. Natalia’s dentist said she had children’s teeth as well. Natalia has been fighting for justice and to put her adoptive parents behind bars. I recommend the series on Max

Natalia Grace was probably actually a child and not an adult like the adoptive parents claimed. Recently, DNA analysis, dental records and an endocrinologist’s evaluation show she was 9-11 years old. So the adoptive parents had a literal child's age changed from 9 to 22 years old and dumped her in an apartment while they moved to Canada

That case about the girl who was adopted... she was not an adult... they did a blood test and found she was actually 9 when her adoptive parents made her go live by herself. She was born in 2003. The parents are terrible terrible people.

I love how this prequel ended up making me root for Esther to best people that felt even more evil than she was. She's such a fun villain.

I am actually amazed how they made her look like a nine year old I thought it would be really hard but they managed to pull it off and it looks great

Its safe to say Isabelle Fuhrman and Julia Stiles were in the same level of acting goodness. That twist was so unexpected and this is surprisingly one of the best prequel horror movies out there, which is a rarity these days

I really love how the mother character wasn't a damn victim in this! Most of the family were terrible people, in fact, aside from the husband. I love that this prequel did something new!

Julia Stiles is soooo good! I wish she took on more roles these days.

There's been new updates in the Natalia Grace case that they referenced that inspired the prequel to happen! Turns out in August of last year, they confirmed that she was actually a child, and was abandoned by her adoptive family... Yikes!

About the real life story of the girl with a growth disorder being “actually an adult” if you look into that case it looks more like the adoptive parents made that up as an excuse to get away with abandoning her. Edit: glad they put a pinned comment correcting the information

Hey in the real life case, the parents lied about her being an adult and she actually went through a lot of abuse at their hands. I think it’s worth mentioning to not further the false narrative.

Something they could do with a third Orphan movie would be to call it Orphans and have a family adopt multiple kids, Esther just being one of them, and she ends up not being the only psycho...