Ep #6: Mind Games - The Dark History of Lobotomy | Dark History Podcast
2,180,917
Published 2021-08-05
Welcome to the Dark History podcast. Today, we are going to talk about an insane chapter in medical history where a doctor sold a procedure, the lobotomy, as if it were an infomercial. For a low, low price, this idiot promised to solve all your mental illnesses. He just has to stick this ice pick in your brain.
I appreciate you for coming by, and tune in next week for more dark history.
You can find the Dark History podcast on Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and every Thursday here on my Youtube for the visual side of things.
Apple Podcast- apple.co/darkhistory
Dark History Merch- baileysarian.com
_______
FOLLOW ME AROUND
Tik Tok : BaileySarian
Instagram : bit.ly/2nbO4PR
Facebook : bit.ly/2mdZtK6
Twitter : bit.ly/2yT4BLV
Pinterest : bit.ly/2mVpXnY
Youtube : bit.ly/1HGw3Og
Snapchat : BaileySarian
RECOMMEND A STORY HERE : [email protected]
Business Related Emails : [email protected]
Wanna Send Me Something?
Bailey Sarian
4400 W Riverside Dr Ste 110-300,
Burbank, CA 91505
_____________
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
02:06 LOBOTOMIES & PATIENTS
05:11 ROSEMARY KENNEDY
10:39 DR.MONIZ
13:19 WALTER FREEMAN
15:12 ALICE HAMMATT
20:14 SURGERY OF THE SOUL
24:12 MAKING LOBOTOMIES SIMPLER
30:16 LOBOTOMY POPULARITY
31:13 HOWARD DULLY
35:15 THE DOWNFALL
39:06 THE APOLOGY TOUR
42:43 PUBLIC PERCEPTION
_____________
Berlatsky, Noah. “The botched lobotomy of Gretchen Richards Reb.” A Beautiful Perspective, 1 Nov 2018, abeautifulperspective.com/2018/11/botched-lobotomy-gretchen-richards-reb/
Day, Elizabeth. “He was bad, so they put an ice pick in his brain…” The Guardian, 13 Jan 2008, www.theguardian.com/science/2008/jan/13/neuroscience.medicalscience
El-Hai, Jack. “Race and Gender in the Selection of Patients for Lobotomy.” Wonders & Marvels, 2016, www.wondersandmarvels.com/2016/12/race-gender-selection-patients-lobotomy.html
El-Hai, Jack. The Lobotomist: A Maverick Medical Genius and His Tragic Quest to Rid the World of Mental Illness. Wiley, 2005.
Faria, Miguel A. Jr. “Violence, mental illness, and the brain – A brief history of psychosurgery: Part 1 – From trephination to lobotomy.” US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health, vol. 4, no. 49, 5 Apr 2013, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3640229/
Gallea, Michael A. “A BRIEF REFLECTION ON THE NOT-SO-BRIEF HISTORY OF THE LOBOTOMY.” BC Medical Journal, vol. 59, No. 6, July-Aug 2017, bcmj.org/mds-be/brief-reflection-not-so-brief-history-lobotomy
Godin, Simon, and Brett LeBlanc. “The History of Lobotomies: Examining its Impacts on Marginalized Groups and the Development of Psychosurgery.” Psychology from the Margins, vol. 2, no. 4, 2020, ideaexchange.uakron.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1007&context=psychologyfromthemargins
Hapsis, Emmanuel. “Rosemary Kennedy: The Tragic Story of Why JFK's Sister Disappeared from Public View.” KQED, 15 Aug 2016, www.kqed.org/pop/22432/rosemary-kennedy-the-tragic-story-of-why-jfks-sister-disappeared-from-public-view
Johnson, Jenell. American Lobotomy: A Rhetorical History. University of Michigan Press, 17 Oct 2014, p. 50. bit.ly/2TVaHd8
Kessler, Ronald. The Sins of the Father, Warner Books, 1996, p. 243.
Klaf, Franklin S., and Charles A. Davis. “HOMOSEXUALITY AND PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA: A SURVEY OF 150 CASES AND CONTROLS.” The American Journal of Psychiatry, vol. 116, no. 12, June 1960, ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/ajp.116.12.1070?journalCode=ajp
Koziol, Mary. “Diagnosing Womanhood: Lessons Learned from Gender Bias in 20th Century Psychiatry.” McGill University Library, 2016, www.mcgill.ca/library/files/library/koziol_mary_2016.pdf
Lenz, Lyz. “The Secret Lobotomy of Rosemary Kennedy.” Marie Claire, 31 Mar 2017, www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a26261/secret-lobotomy-rosemary-kennedy/
Tone, Andrea, and Mary Koziol. “(F)ailing women in psychiatry: lessons from a painful past.” US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health, vol. 190, no. 20, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5962395/
“Walter Freeman’s Psychosurgery and Biological Psychiatry: A Cautionary Tale.” Neurology Today, vol. 5, no. 4, 2005, journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2005/04000/WALTER_FREEMAN_S_PSYCHOSURGERY_AND_BIOLOGICAL.20.aspx
_______
Dark History is an Audioboom Original
This podcast is Executive Produced by:
Chelsea Durgin from Slash Mgmt, Bailey Sarian, and Avi Gandhi from Wheelhouse DNA
Producer: Lexxi Kiven, Derrial Christon and Spencer Strasmore
Research provided by: Jed Bookout
Writers: Jed Bookout, Michael Oberst, Joey Scavuzzo and me - Bailey Sarian
I'm your host ----Princess of the Dark, Bailey Sarian
Historical Consultants: Jack El-Hai (Author of “The Lobotomist”) and Janell Johnson
Video Director: Trent Barboza and Eric Abell
Edited by: Ryan Philander & Jim Luci
Production Management: Marissa Barrrientos
All Comments (21)
-
I love how we’re learning about history but feels like we’re gossiping <3
-
"women who needed therapy, people with homosexual tendencies, and animals! Those are like all my friends" SAME!
-
I'm so glad you are covering this. I fell down the Rosemary Kennedy rabbit hole a few years ago and I can't believe how badly she was treated by her own family and how little it is known.
-
My husband's grandmother had a frontal lobotomy done. These people are left a shell of their former selves. I cannot describe how unbelievably sad the situations was. It's heartbreaking.
-
Bailey doesn’t get the recognition she deserves! SHE IS A LITERAL YOUTUBE PIONEER! She has literally started a whole new “Commentary Genre” on YouTube. Now everyone is doing makeup story telling. She took the top 2 genres on YouTube and clashed them together. PLEASE GIVE HER, HER ROSES NOW!!
-
Oh no. Joey needs to go. I don't even know what that was. Don't do that.
-
I love seeing how far you’ve come, Bailey! Joey can respectfully stick to lighting—quietly lol. His vibe doesn’t match the whole wonderful atmosphere you’ve created.
-
Do one on shock therapy! My great grandmother had to have shock therapy treatments while she was pregnant. Everyone thought she was schizophrenic when really she had 5 kids at home and my great grandfather walked out with another woman, while she was 6 months pregnant. She then was put into a psych unit for her postpartum. She was basically told she was insane
-
I feel like Joey suddenly jumping in and speaking loudly killed the immersion of the podcast unfortunately. I play this as I paint and find it calming and fascinating. Whenever he would appear I would zoom to the screen and lose my head space, only for comments that don't really add to whatever you were saying. I understand it was possibly for comic relief but personally did not find it funny and feel like this podcast already has a perfect balance of seriousness and lightheartedness with just Bailey alone.
-
speaking of Kennedy, her life started in tragedy. Her mother went into labor, and she tried to deliver the baby, but the nurses in the hospital told her to close her legs because a doctor wasn't available to help with the birth. So the poor baby was in the birth canal for 2 hours before a doctor arrived, and had severe brain damage due to oxygen depletion. The reason she was a "rebel" in the first place...brain damage
-
I heard Rosemary’s mother didn’t even know about the surgery until after it happened. She was out of town and came back to her daughter like this.
-
Was anyone else disappointed when Bailey didn’t say “You know what would make Walter feel so much better? A lobotomy” 😅
-
Still waiting for Bailey to have her own show on Netflix
-
Literally every story Bailey tell, will sound like a gossip and it's the most entertaining thing ever
-
My best friend of 10 plus years just passed in a car accident and honestly Bailey your vids are the only way I can get my mind off my own trauma so thank you for all you do
-
"Lou being a bottom" I can't she's so funny oml
-
“Women, homosexuals and animals… that’s like all my friends” I laughed so hard!! 😂😂 I love you Bailey! We need to besties.
-
In many cases lobotomy's were used control how specifically women acted. A lot of people who were forced into them weren't sick, just not the "ideal" wife.
-
"They have bears as pets in Russia" gives the same energy as "They have lions as pets in Africa". Btw only the really well off have lions, most of us have zebras.
-
I listened to the podcast and couldn’t tell if this was real or planned interruptions like a prank. If the guy is contracted to be there for lighting (I understand he needs a job and probably has obligations to fill) he can fulfill the contract by setting up the lights and standing outside of the recording sesh. Please.
