Audiences Hate Bad Writing, Not Strong Women

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Published 2023-07-15
Hollywood - and Disney in particular - have a recent trend of propping up female heroines who just aren't that interesting of characters. They have shallow character arcs, are largely interested in self-actualization, and often lack any likeable traits. There are, however, examples of strong female characters such as Vi and Rita Vertaski from within the last decade that run contrary to this trend, and their positive acceptance is proof positive that audiences do not dislike strong women - just bad writing.

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All Comments (21)
  • @grahamthomas9319
    “Write characters to tell a story not prove a point” Great line!
  • @nicholas_obert
    "Don't make a great female character, make a great character that happens to be female" -some wise person
  • @DrShiba-jg1me
    "Ya'll hate on Rey just because she's a strong woman" Meanwhile Ahsoka, Leia and Padme are some of the most beloved and iconic characters in Star Wars history
  • @elunesky4051
    We have Ripley from Aliens franchise being this strong and powerful women. We don't complain about it. Why? Because the writing is so good
  • @Anupamprime
    I like how no one hated Gamora... Despite she being the 2nd strongest Physically and strongest In Overall Combat.... Because she was written perfectly in the guardians of the galaxy franchise..
  • @SnowWhite87792
    As a woman, it doesn’t feel empowering or inspiring. It feels patronizing and pitying. They need to stop doing this
  • @novahyper6731
    Edge of Tomorrow is one of my favorite movies of all time, but has gone very overlooked. Thanks for giving it and it’s amazing characters the love they deserve!
  • @user-wz7kq2iy5e
    A better comparison scene for the bullying is Harry Potter. His mistreatment at the hands of the Dursleys is explained very quickly – they value normalcy, which Harry is decidedly not. He is bullied by his relatives and, as a result of their deception, pretty much everyone around him considers him the problem and so they mistreat him too. Not only is the treatment given a reasoning, we later find out the reasoning is nuanced and find out even later just how much deeper it went than we were initially led to believe… to the point that there were scenes relating to the mistreatment that were actually impactful and surprising all the way until the final movie/book. It goes even further in that it was a narrow reflection of a broader issue in the world at large. On that broader scale it was a large factor in Grindelwald’s motives which ultimately led to WW2. What seemed like a simple thing was actually a major plot point… whereas RoP? “Please like our Mary Sue because she endured some inexplicable childish bullying”
  • I think the irony of the "sexism" card is that they are ultimately defending writers not respecting women enough to put real effort into their characters and arcs
  • @PseudoNym13
    The worst part is when they get called out for bad writing they pull the sexism card to cope for their lack of skill
  • @growarmygtvo8463
    This is true for all characters no one wants a perfect flawless character.
  • @rjwallace7477
    As a male I love characters like Leia, eowyn, Vi, Katness etc because they are well written it just feels like Disney and other companies just try to make instantly talented women who have to hate guys to seem strong
  • @xygour1445
    People don’t hate strong and independent women they hate “I AM A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN”
  • As a girl I have always thought that those movies failed because of sexism, not in the sense that audiences didn't like it, but in the sense of not creating new characters, just female versions, not creating complex characters, just make them perfect. It's like 'a woman has to be perfect' 'a woman is superficial ' 'a woman is not worth the effort of writing a good characters' and 'women are so dumb that this is all it takes to sell a movie'
  • I like how the Entire Message of Mulan that men and women are different but still strong in different ways, BUT that when brought together and working with each other, relying on each others strengths thats when you can do anything.
  • @stevenlakes8737
    Great Video, so much effort put in! refreshing to see something so well thought out and planned.
  • Calling fans sexist or racist because they dont like your art is simply a coping mechanism by talentless hacks to protect their fragile egos.
  • @TheGabrielPT
    It's always the sudden shift from total victimhood to total power that feels forced and doesnt make sense.
  • @Koopatroop5421
    Honestly, so well said. This is exactly how I feel. These characters are shallow and unrelatable. Give me a character with real flaws. The reason why we like any main character or hero is because of the humanness in them, not because of the superhuman powers they possess. These modern portrayals of women don't need to earn anything. It's just handed to them. That's not real life. And you're so right that the much better and more realistic message is "I'm not enough but I can still do great things." That's an actually relatable message. I'm a women and I really don't like these movies. It's not because of sexism, it's because of bad character writing.