Why Modern Movies Suck - They're Written By Children

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Glad to see someone else sees this. My dad puts it this way "Imagine a group of middle schoolers coming together to rewrite all classic films and IPs. That's modern media."

What's worse is when you have a serious film where the adults act like children and the children act like adults.

Have you noticed the increase in “adult” language? In the old movies, swearing isn’t used unless the dialogue demands it to make the lines more impactful. Today they sound like 8 year olds on Xbox live.

"Losing control is not a sign of strength. It's a sign of deep weakness and insecurity" THIS!!!!!!!

Personally think of it like this: most older movies were stories, most modern movies are spectacles.

remember when a character going into a fit of rage was seen as the character hitting rock bottom and not just a quirky character trait?

I think part of this ultimately comes down to the life experiences and history of the individuals actually writing the story. Since you mentioned Star Trek, let’s look at Gene Roddenberry for example… this is a guy who flew 89 combat missions during WW2 and worked as a commercial pilot after the war. He later joined the LAPD and eventually got involved in the entertainment industry after becoming a liaison on shows like Dragnet. My point is that all of these life experiences fed into his ideas and inspirations when it came to Star Trek (as well as more traditional inspirations such as other works of fiction like John Carter of Mars and Tarzan). Now compare this to people like Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci who co-wrote both of the JJ Abrams-directed Star Trek movies. The two of them met in high school, and after university went straight into writing for syndicated television, which eventually led to progressively bigger and more high-profile gigs. My reason for making this comparison is: what inspiration did the latter duo have to draw from when writing THEIR Star Trek? The answer is nothing except for previous Star Trek (and other sci-fi movies). That’s why Star Trek into Darkness was such an inept, lacklustre rehash of Wrath of Khan, because Kurtzman and Orci remember watching that movie as kids, and have fond memories of it, but have nothing new or original to actually bring to the table. And I’m not suggesting here that in order to write compelling stories you need to have literally gone to war or been a cop, I’m simply talking about LIFE experiences outside of your career as a “writer”… and that can be literally anything from working in a factory to being a fisherman or even just working in a convenience store (such as Kevin Smith who went on to make Clerks which launched his career). The problem as I see it is that way too many leading names in the entertainment industry these days just seem to be individuals who came out of high school/university and straight into a career in filmmaking. Often times this can be attributed simply to nepotism but in many cases that’s not necessarily the case. Even people who gain success in the industry by starting relatively low and working their way up, (while commendable in its own right) still lack the vital life experiences outside of the industry to write compelling and convincing narratives.

The other great bit of the Data/Worf scene is that neither Data nor the writer intends to "knock down Worf a peg or two". Worf gets a redemption later on in the episode with his "health and safety inspection" idea ... which Data initially rejects, then reconsiders, showing that the earlier incident has done nothing to diminish Worf in anyone's eyes. Worf shows character in owning up to his behavior, and Data shows character in not holding it against him any further than the conversation. The writer got it.

"Isn't it great when characters act like actual adults?" YES! yes it is!

The worst thing about new Star Trek is seeing Spock, a guy who holds thoughtfulness and logic to be the highest thing, running around yelling and not being able to control himself

Modern audiences would demand that Data and Worf scream at each other until “strong female character” walks in and insults their masculinity with a series of one liners. Then Data and Worf leave with their tails between their legs while audiences scream “YASSSS QUEEN!”

This is why I love Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. Sure, it's a kids movie, but the movie can actually take risks at some points by analysing themes that can appeal to adults (death and anxiety), despite being aimed for kids, and it can portray them better than alot of adult movies we have today.

The fucking ewok in Return of the Jedi who shakes his dead friend on the battlefield and briefly grieves to realize he's dead had more depth and emotional impact than the trash produced today. That's how far we have fallen from grace.

"They're Written By Children." Well your characters are only ever as smart as you can write them.

So on the mark! When someone is yelling at me, I raise the shields! The screaming/yelling characters are bad enough but its almost always combined with visual overload. Totally mind-numbing. With Star Trek, these the men and women are the elite of the elite of the elite and yet they behave like they haven't yet mastered puberty. Yelling can and does work-- in a Few Good Men, when Tom Cruise starts to shout at Jack Nicholson in the court room, and the latter loses his cool, it was riveting and had every bit of my attention. Both felt in control even while Jack's control slipped, and they were focus of the scene. The scene where Sauron and Galadriel are yelling at each other reminded me of a 10 year old brother and sister and both are thousands of years old.

I think a major factor in why the old star trek was so great was that many of the cast and crew had served in the military at one point(many were wwii vets if im not mistaken). Thus they understood good leadership and how to portray there characters in a believable way. It's also just a byproduct of the era they lived in.

Frank Herbert himself said it best: "There's an unwritten compact between you and the reader. If someone enters a bookstore and sets down hard-earned money (energy) for your book, you owe that person some entertainment." Movies written by actual children would probably be at least somewhat entertaining. Current writers forget that their movies should be something you want to see because they'll be an enjoyable experience.

My god, this video was so on the mark.

Amen on the Worf/Data scene. The problem with modern writers is that they themselves don't understand the fundamentals of human psychology and morality/ethics to be able to integrate the principles into their work, let alone practice them in their personal lives.