Grabby Aliens?! Unusual Explanation of Fermi Paradox and Why We Don't Hear Anyone

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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about the concept of grabby aliens
Links:
iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4357/ac236…
grabbyaliens.com/press-release
mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/greatfilter.html
   • The Grabby Aliens Model — 3D Sim  
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_and_loud_aliens
Alien robots:    • Fermi Paradox and Hart-Tipler Conject...  
Other Fermi Paradox videos: youtube.com/playlist/PL9hNFus3sjE7lB0sJRnGLWng0uIP…
#seti #grabbyaliens #aliens

0:00 Fermi paradox intro
0:45 Intro to the proposition and the great filter
2:05 Potential resolutions to Fermi paradox
2:30 Grabby aliens in a nutshell
2:50 Quiet and Loud aliens
3:50 Assumptions in this study
5:50 Overall conclusions - Grabby aliens
7:00 Computer simulation
8:20 More assumptions and why we don't see anything
8:50 When will we hear or see them?
9:50 Biases and wrong psychological assumptions
11:20 Could they be not sentient anymore?
13:10 Conclusions

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Todos los comentarios (21)
  • @Secret_Sun33
    We can assume that an advanced civilization would be smart enough to hide their signatures to avoid space spammers asking about their ship's extended warranties.
  • @Jazzufication
    This is something I've always struggled to reconcile with the Fermi paradox. If signals from Earth would be difficult to pick up even from within our own stellar neighborhood, then how can we expect to detect signals from any alien civilizations which might be further away? Even if we can conclusively say there's nothing within, say, 5,000 lightyears from us, that's only a tiny portion of the Milky Way, to say nothing about other galaxies.
  • @peglor
    The Three Body Problem trilogy was all about the importance of humans not being spotted by other civilizations. It's also one of the very best works of science fiction written in recent times, but not on too many people's radar because it was originally written in Chinese - the English translation of the trilogy is well worth the read.
  • @michaelmartin8337
    Dark Forest Theory - you don't know if the other creatures are friendly so you avoid them in case they are prone to attack any species not like them or other species have something the predator species desires
  • @pirateradioFPV
    Can't even imagine how much fun Anton had going trough a ton of stock footage about the aliens 👀
  • @Martinko_Pcik
    Distances are unimaginable. If we scale Milky Way to a continental USA, the speed of light is comparable to the speed of the growing grass.
  • @dreamyphil
    Both Three Body Problem (aliens hiding) and Blindsight (non-sentient aliens) are great books/series that touch on a lot of these ideas. Great video!
  • @andrasrudnai9386
    10:19 a big big thing about that: That applies to expansion in opposition to other nations / civilizations. When there is little to no resistance to expansion, it happens naturally whenever the pros of establishing in a new environment (resource abundance, easy(er) opportunities) outweighs the cons (loss of living standard until properly established, more instability)
  • @deckape714
    Please keep it up.I hope you and your family are well. Your friend from Seattle
  • @tommiest3769
    Not sure how the Grabby Aliens Hypothesis assumes "universal alien behavior". It posits that Grabby civilizations make up a small percentage of the total number of civilizations, but all it takes is a few expansionistic civilizations to make the idea workable. There could be a variety of alien behaviors, but the aliens we would encounter almost by definition be the expansionistic ones rather than the peaceful home-world-bound alien space monks.
  • @lotsofstuff9645
    It’s my understanding that the main consensus in relevant scientific fields is that all of the intelligent aliens within our region were actually watching the Stargate Universe series, until the studio rudely cut the series just as it was getting interesting. This caused all the space aliens to leave our neighbourhood in frustration as there was nothing left decent to watch. Personally I think they overreacted because Everything Everywhere All at Once was pretty good. 1917 was good. Some of the Marvel Movies/Shows made me want to leave also, but some of it has been good.
  • @jtothemaurednik
    thank you for this and i hope you’re doing well. gonna try to start saying thank you on all your videos. you take the time to make these and i really appreciate your work!
  • @_..____
    A few years of "observation", compared to the gigantic timeframes we're dealing with, makes me think we don't have enough empiric data to decide anything. For now, using logic with what we have so far and improving observation would be a nice step.
  • @stevepayne3094
    Okay, I flat out died laughing about the Loud Aliens rocking out. Maybe that's one of the Great Filters, and now I won't become an advanced civilization
  • @pn2543
    Carl Sagan's book and movie 'Contact' are worth reading/watching for an interesting perspective on the motivations of the alien ET for contacting us. The movie significantly tweaked Sagan's original idea in interesting ways. 'We dont know why. It was like that when we found it. That's the way its been done for millions of years.'
  • @darkokopcok8716
    "The dark forest hypothesis" was not mentioned in the video. An idea from the trilogy of books "Remembrance of Earth's Past" by the Chinese writer Liu Cixin. A very interesting solution to the Fermi paradox.
  • @Danboi.
    Where the hell did you get all the b-roll? 😂 This was so well put together. Loved the alien band rocking out🤘😂
  • @dans-designs
    I think we need to stop applying our own duality to other life forms. we are missing so many pieces of the puzzle.. just because we are stood on the beach of our island and when we look out to the ocean we see no other islands, does not mean there are none.. our island is tucked away in a very remote place in the galaxy and we are not ready to interact with other beings for at the moment we cannot even stand each other...
  • @susanjane4784
    Thank you for pointing out the human-centric part of all of this. Our species' sameness makes it so difficult to even imagine intelligence in other animals let alone something outside our tiny sphere of influence. I remember how mindblowing it was learning that whales sing to each other across hundreds of miles. Resources are certainly an idea for dispersion but I often think about divisions that could force species to move beyond their genesis -- blue star bellie sneeches versus red, capitalist versus socialist, even species that diverged for various reasons including intentional genetic manipulation. The forces do not have to be violence or some form of slash-and-burn economics as is so popular in our current dark visions of the future.
  • @nme0830
    Thankyou! I really enjoy the way you present incredibly complex topics in an approachable way & your love for the subjects is infectious!