"The Flash" Was a Waste of Time

Get it… Because time travel.

Guys I think he didn’t like The Flash

Weirdly, I think I’d enjoy FLASHPOINT more if Ezra traveled to the Arrowverse for a team up with Grant that served as the end of the Arrowverse and a James Gun DC reboot.

The worst thing about the Christopher Reeve cameo is that Brandon Rouths Superman is canonically the same Superman as Reeve. If they wanted that version of Superman then they could’ve used an actor who’s still alive

Honestly at this point, I think the absolute best thing that James Gunn could do is do a completely clean slate. Start over from scratch, don’t carry anything over from the DCEU. Yes there are some redeeming qualities of the DCEU movies but if the DCU wants to move forward cleanly and successfully, then carrying things over from the past will just confuse audiences and muddy everything up

I'm just tired over how the fate of the world/multiverse is at stake. I was more invested in Shang-Chi due to his messed up family issues.

I want Sasha to stay too, ESPECIALLY considering that her journey and lenths she did with the role ALONE was impressive. There's no one I can imagine who deserve this role better than her

Kara was such a great character with the tragedy of her situation matching her need to push for a better world and it feels like the movie’s screenwriters focusing on her arc would have crafted a better storyline.

I think Keaton, while great seeing him again, is kinda wasted since it’s not really our version of 89 Batman and more of a variant due to the alternate timeline. Even though the director said it’s a continuation of 89 Batman, it didn’t feel that way to me. Also, something about having multiple Batmen and Superman but no Grant Gustin or John Wesley Ship feels so wrong. This movie should’ve honored The Flash character way more.

I had the same issue with this movie that I did with the Black Widow movie (which I really enjoyed, for the record) where it feels like the third movie in a trilogy that doesn't exist. Everything in this movie feels like payoff for setup that we haven't been given and we're expected to be attached to it. If we had gotten another Flash movie or two before this that properly set things up, THEN this movie came out, it might not have felt so hollow.

A lot of this movie reminds me Spider-Man 3, kind of because it was marred with a lot of studio interference, but mostly cause so many baffling choices are made throughout the entire movie that it becomes mostly ironically enjoyable and entertaining with the occasional genuinely interesting choice that sometimes get me unironically invested in it. With that said, I'm still interested in what Muschietti can do when given creative control from the beginning and what the new DCU comes out as a whole.

Muccietti also had to work with materials that had been constantly reworked and rewritten to the point where the first script and the final one only shared the name and a character in commonality. He probably did the best with what he had and I think with brave and the bold where he will get to start from the ground up, it will probably be a better experience

They should’ve let me be the Flash. I’m also nonbinary, I would do it for way less money, and I’ve Ezra Miller’d far fewer people.

14:25 - this reminded me of Zeb Wells and Nick Lowe with current Spider-Man comics (and this is coming from someone who is VERY very much not a fan of those current comics lol, but there's a lot of hate being thrown around all over the place towards those comics to Wells alone when I think the problem might be not ONLY him but editorial and corporate Marvel)

My main problem is that Ezra doesn't feel like the character of Barry Allen, and that sucks because the Flash is my favorite character.

Nail on the head brother, wish the movie allowed Flash to stand on his own in his own movie, he deserved better

The mediocrity and dedication to references and characters who aren’t the Flash in a multiverse movie is so funny to me. It makes Spiderverse look like a powerful fuck you response to Flashpoint even though it released first.

The movie was riddled with problems but I did quite enjoy the movie we got and yes I wished it was just about Flash and him going on a journey against his villains, like The Rogues, Gorilla Grodd or Reverse Flash specifically. I do think the cameos while some questionable, did come from a place of genuine love for the past DC movies and tv shows that made fans of these characters today. I even shed tears when Flash said goodbye to his mother, which was probably the best part of the movie for me, even when I said to myself I wouldn't get emotional over this movie and for Ezra's Flash. Despite his crimes, Ezra does do a good job as a more mature Barry Allen in this movie, though that still doesn't mean I want to see him as the Flash for the DCU. Just cast someone new to play Barry or introduce Wally West. I hope the Flash has a prominent place in the DCU's future because the character deserves better content and representation of the legacy of the character than this film. Im personally hoping The Flash get a new rebooted movie that embraces the character as the noble and whimsical hero that he is who fights super-intelligent gorillas, bitter time-travelling rivals with super-speed and superpowered criminals with moral codes.

Given that both Black Adam and Fury of the Gods tried to replicate the Snyderverse’s success without that visoon, it is telling that the last really successful DCEU film involved Zack Snyder himself.

You know for a Flash movie, Barry Allen feels overshadowed by Michael Keaton's Batman and the cameos of every other superhero. I kinda don't mind a Flashpoint movie, but I kinda think that the film forgot that it was a Flash movie. I also remember people blaming Gunn for how The Flash turned out, citing how the reboot led to the cancellation of other future projects (notably Batgirl which was supposed to keep Michael Keaton as Batman). However, the film had long been finished before the reboot (and the only minor change is the ending scene of George Clooney Batman instead of keeping Michael Keaton as another alternate Batman).