Can the Conservative party survive defeat? | FT Film

I’m not Labour, but they have my vote for next ten years. I went to uni 2012 first year of tripled fees. My debt interest outpaces payments and will cost me £77k to pay off. Wages were stagnant when I left uni for 10 years, home ownership was the dominant conversation among my peer group and its entrench unfairness and tories priorities the baby boomers who had all the house wealth and ring fenced thier pensions to year on year beat inflation and wages. Childcare costs are unaffordable I’m paying 2k per month + a morgage which rised by £600 a month because of the tories They worked against my generation their entire time in office. I won’t vote for them

Nice analysis, but missing one crucial element. Tactical voting. The left did it to perfection, the right hardly at all. If the 2019 election was the "Get Brexit Done" election then this one was the "Get the Tories Out" election. Brexit has dealt a near fatal blow to the Tories. Cameron was a fool.

Graduates are realising that further education no longer lifts them out of the day race. Back in the days of cheap housing and jobs for life, the degree was followed by marriage, 2.3 children, promotions and comfortable retirement. Now graduated face insecure employment, relatively poor pay, home ownership out of reach and paying 40% of salary to a landlord. Graduates are facing similar issues to young non-graduates.

In the late 90s and 00s I remember Black Wednesday was still a topic of conversation and reason people weren't voting Conservative. That was a 1 day event in 1992, the Conservatives now have to explain away the last 14 years. Good luck.

No mention of nimbyism and the highest housing cost to earnings ratio since Queen Victoria. I'm 33 and nothing short of a free house will make me vote for them.

As someone who came into voting age just after the brexit referendum... the tories have lost my vote for life and I'm never gonna vote for them. Especially after the debacles that followed. They've shown themselves to flagrantly flout the rules their meant to uphold and clearly to priorities their own self interests over the people they represent. Short of every tory member quitting and new reliable representivies being put in place, they're never getting my vote again. At that point they may as well rebrand to a new non-toxic party.

I don’t believe the Tories have ever been on the side of young adults. The current version of the Tory party (ie the Culture War Party) is doomed and I don’t see them recovering for a very long time, if ever.

The Lib Dems were positioned to the left of Labour this election, not the centre.

Lol. Conservative Ideology is fundamentally incompatible with concept of “Public Service”, “Economic Growth” and “Individual Prosperity”. Its summary is “Trickle down economics”, of some form or degree. The guy in this video is absolutely right. I am a black ethnic minority voter and I make high 5-7 figures (good/bad) annually. I am also culturally conservative (not really buying the gay and trans) because that’s how I was raised. But I have never considered voting for the Tories and never will. I’d rather pay 50% tax to a Labour government and make sure they invest it in public services than pay no tax to conservatives, therefore letting them sell those public services to a few rich Conservatives so that they can fleece me on bills through the back door. The outcome is the same. Your money will leave your account (regardless of the lies conservatives tell). The question is, where does it go.. With a Labour (or really any non-conservative) government it goes to public services, with conservatives it goes to faux capitalists (capitalists with no capital), and a few rich friends.

People left the Tories because they didn't deliver. Not because of what their policies or ideas were, but because of 14 years of failure. The Tories lost because they failed to achieve anything in 14 years except destruction. Voters on the right/upset about immigration failures went Reform. Voters who have up on the Tories didn't vote. Some people voted Tory. The Tory vote dropped 50%. The overall vote dropped. Vote share is one picture, raw votes is more relevant.

A dry, statistician's analysis which misses the point that the Conservatives were the authors of 14 years of worsening living standards, drops in life expectancy, failures across public services, flatlining growth and productivity, and serious deficiencies in probity and conduct among Conservative ministers. Arguing which pieces of the electorate the Tories can help themselves to is premature when the party has to have some idea of how to actually deliver more than locking in inherited wealth and privilege. This is why graduates are a problem. The Tories have done everything they can to squeeze the young to benefit the old. Until they stop doing this they can't assume anyone will care to vote for them.

can they survive defeat? of course, but not with those people who sat in front in the conference. Cruella??? with people like her hugging the Tory limelight, then defeat will spawn more defeat... the young Brits are more cosmopolitan than the older generations, less parochial, less insular, more European, more world-conscious. the Tories are the party of regression and nostalgia for things past that no longer mean anything to the younger generation...

In a FPP two party system, no party ever dies. And that's the whole problem.

As a graduate with a high income, I can assure you that I'd rather have working services than low tax and any time the Tories try and push the narrative that low tax is the way to grow the economy I'm going to remind them of what the markets thought of that when Liz Truss tried it.

The reason for Johnson’s victory can be attributed partially to Corbyn. Starmer’s recent victory can be attributed partially to Johnson!

They tied their entire fortunes to the older generations who, by the inevitable march of time will dwindle in number, meanwhile people who are entering their middle-age now, traditionally the age when people in the UK become more conservative, have been treated with nothing but distain by the Tories over the past 15 years are not going to suddenly change their minds support them. Unless they are willing to change and actually start supporting the under-60s, they will cease to be and their passing will be celebrated.

We also need a media that can be trusted to research and report news ..... not just government mouthpieces

Why is nobody talking about the wildcard … competent government! All this talk about how to get voters back makes me tired, no talk about what they will actually do for these voters to make their lives better. Tories and RefUK are ONLY interested in their own interests and power. I think this is the main distinction between them and every other party.

The whole political ethos of the Tories has been to favour the rich elderly at the expense of the young. It’s not surprising that when the older Tory voters age out that young people aren’t pro Tory.

The difference is after 14 years now they have reform to contend with. Also after 20 plus years of Southend on sea having Tory MP’s we now have 2 Labour MP’s