What Killed the Plants vs Zombies Franchise?

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Publicado 2022-07-23
Plants vs Zombies is one of the most iconic games of the late 2000s, but nowadays it seems to have been largely forgotten to be the titan it once was. In this video, I plan on answering the question as to what choice(s) led to the situation we're in today.

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TIMESTAMPS:
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0:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Plants vs Zombies
8:52 - Plants vs Zombies 2
13:23 - Garden Warfare/GW2
15:00 - PvZ Heroes
17:25 - Battle for Neighborville
18:15 - Plants vs Zombies 3
19:46 -What's next?
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Music Used (In Order)

T3rr0r Music Playlist:    • T3rr0r background music  

Modern Day - Demonstration Minigame (PvZ 2)
Graze the Roof
Watery Graves
Ultimate Battle
Brainiac Maniac
Loonboon
Zombies on Your Lawn (inst)
Rigor Mormist
Wild West (PvZ 2)
Pirate Seas (PvZ 2)
Elder Scrolls IV - Harvest Dawn
PvZ Garden Warfare - Main Menu Theme
GW2 - Loon Skirmish
PvZ Heroes - Super Brainz Theme
Creative Exercise - Mario Paint
Giddy Park - BFN OST
Toys vs Nightmares Theme
Deadly Premonition - Life is Beautiful

Todos los comentarios (21)
  • @T3rr0r626
    I made a documentary on PopCap itself if anyone's interested. I tried to take as much of the criticism as I could so there's no overextending or straying too far from the topic displayed in the title, as a lot of people have been having grievances with the fact that this retrospective video goes over the full story. Check it out if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZfvkuZ0AY&t=387s


    CORRECTIONS:
    PopCap were technically the ones who had complete control over whether or not to add microtransactions in PvZ 2. EA just published the second game while giving PopCap a massive incentive to make a lot of profit, causing them to descend to greedy methods. Something I had also forgotten to include was the input of George Fan. He was the one who implemented a lot of character into the first game, and his lack of involvement for the second game could be a possible reason for why the game has a different (not necessarily worse) feel.
  • @maniekrozmaryn
    After knowing and playing this game for 12 years I know that torchwood also can get rid of fog
  • @HBRO_04
    Everytime I would play PVZ as a kid It would freak me out hearing the zombies. I was too scared to play it sometimes. What scared me the most was when the zombie’s would enter your house. Hearing the “NO” scream haunted me as a kid.
  • @iliasfilip2110
    They should make a PvZ game where you attack the Zombie HQ and rescue Crazy Dave. That way the roles are reversed while sticking to the original idea
  • @katuhra-_-5869
    Man Garden Warfare 1 and 2 were one of the biggest games of my childhood. The story and interactive world in GW2 was addicting me. I just wanted to adventuee and collect all the secrets. Truly two gems, but i dont wanna talk about battle for neighborville. Some nice ideas but the execution rough
  • @TheTyphoon365
    Garden Warfare was insanely fun. Actually ahead of it's time. Such good co-op too. Damn I miss that
  • @joemogley
    I think the reason Garden Warfare was well recieved was that, despite the feel changing massively, it was still a "tower defense" game in spirit. It's jsut that now, you control the towers instead of a omnipotent builder. This especially applies once you start strategizing in the game. That could be a reason why Garden Warfare was well recieved, but Heroes is forgotten.
  • @yume9998
    In the almanac, it says that zomboss is trying to conquer his local place of smh. Moreover, we can see chinese zombies in the bottom of the achievement section. So it shows that there are more and different zombie groups and bosses all around the world. I think it would be fun to have a game that we can travel the world with our seeds and save people from zombies. We could find new seeds too. We would learn more and more about how Zombies first appeared and who's responsible for that and the last boss would be the one who created zombies. Yes, most of the fan theories says that Dave and Zomboss have a big role in that but what if they wouldn't? What if the one who created bloom and doom co. is someone different than we thought?
  • @athebot4578
    It’s not dead. They just took the franchise in a (unwanted) different direction which made the fans stop caring about the new entries. That doesn’t mean that the other games don’t have players, in fact there are new players in almost every lobby (even gw1) (on xbox, sorry for the confusion)

    Edit: grammar (thanks to @Flanigmo) and the bit at the end
  • “Winter Melon tries to calm his nerves. He hears the zombies approach. Will he make it? Will anyone make it?” Is the best quote
  • @bengonzales1182
    The original Plants vs Zombies game got me through so many hours of waiting on my car getting serviced, DMV, hospital waits, and everything in between. I'd have to say it's one of my favorite games of all time.
  • @Supershadow301
    People often forget PvZ:Heroes exists, but imo it did a great job with its artstyle.
    It mixes nicely the respective artstyles of both PvZ (cartoonish but weird and a bit gritty) and PvZ2 (softer cartoon), and then adds a dash of super hero comics art to make it its own unique style. And it fits pretty well!
    The new plants/zombies fit well enough, while the returning ones take cues from either PvZ1, PvZ2, or other sources like PvZ Adventures (the weird facebook game?)
  • @Aniso442
    I played the DS version a lot as a kid! It was always one of my favorite go to games. :)
  • @jacknystrom3125
    Dude the first PvZ game got me through all sorts of tough times. During my childhood I was in and out of the hospital and all I can remember is playing PvZ on my dad's phone.
  • @siwyktos3928
    Garden warfare 1 and 2 were really fun imo, one thing i really liked was that skins werent just skins but they also changed mechanics in character
  • @xero1048
    Upon release I remember PVZ2 being really bad. It’s gameplay was great, however the levels were atrocious. The map was like a maze, and you had to buy keys to unlock the rest of the levels. I was so happy that it was completely reworked to be linear
  • @Hollowdude15
    Great video T3rr0r and it's so interesting to know what killed plants vs zombies franchise :]