War Never Changes Explained - Does It Actually Mean Anything?

“War was waged with sticks and stones, now it’s waged with bombs and drones. Of course, warfare changes… …but war, war never changes.”

The research which went into this video deserves appreciation

My personal opinion about this phase is, war never changes because, even though the players(factions), politics, confilcts, and technologies have changed, the human nuture of conflict doesn't change. Where ever there are humans, there will be conflicts, and this doesn't change no matter what state of the world we're in.

I always thought it was the CAUSES of the war and not the war itself.

"everyone wants to save the world they just disagree on how"-Maximus

Always reminds me of the quote from MASH: "War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse." - Hawkeye Also, anytime I hear about Alan Turing I get filled with rage and sadness. History is so often disappointing.

"If war doesnt change, men must change"-Ulysses

As a Minutemen player, as soon as the very moment you mentioned Quincy, I instantly got PTSD and horrid flashbacks at that.

The sad part is that this video even had to be made. Even sadder is that some will watch it, and still not understand.

Didn't expect to see oxhorn whipping the tesla truck around this morning

Something that has always fascinated me in this discussion was how Metal Gear Solid 4 is a very obviously meant to be Kojimas satire on Fallout 3, as it opened opened with an overly egregious and pretentious monologue declaring “War. Has. Changed.” Which is kinda bizzare because the Ron Pearlman quote was never supposed to be literal, it meant that conflict and war was a part of Mankind’s soul and it can’t be separated from it. Just because the MGS Universe has advanced technology and was primarily fought through proxy wars and espionage doesn’t really change anything but conditions. The Pre-War Fallout Conflict had all of those things. Not only this, but I think Death Stranding was Kojimas even bigger attempt at making a subversive version of Fallout, as it’s a post apocalyptic world where most survivors live in walled-in cities and Underground Bunkers. Unlike Fallout where the remains of the US are psychotic and see themselves as the Ubermensch, with Miltary Seperatists with an Ancient Knight Culture being the best chance at stopping them. By coincidence, the Death Stranding US gov remnants are presented as Noble-Bright Good guys who are trying to survive attacks by a cartoonishly evil group of militarized Separatists who base their culture and Aesthetic off of Ancient Egypt. I think it’s likely that Kojima didn’t like how Fo3 depicted the US Gov, which 80’s Action movies gave him the impression of being badass good guys. With the history out of the way, it seemed Kojima liked the Fallout TV Show, as we know he at least watched it and actually wanted to hire an actor from it. This, along with the fact that Death Stranding 2 will feature more FPS based mechanics may show a change in perspective!

Fallout has always made a point of showing how much history repeats itself. There's a reason that, despite taking place in the future, pre-war America is basically a more technologically advanced version of the 50s.

Great video, Oxhorn. Thanks for taking the time to illustrate how almost all of the atrocities we encounter in the Fallout games have their antecedents in real-life events. The writers may change the window dressing to suit their storyworld, but the behaviors are the same. The only one I didn’t already know was the cannibalism in Russia the 1920s with children being most at risk. It makes me wonder how many fairy stories that focus on children escaping cannibalistic witches have their genesis in similar tragedies.

Thanks for this one brother. Fallout is a setting where everyone had the red button ready to go, and yet everyone was surprised by the bombs dropped anyway. War never changes.

If you understand Fallout. You know that War never changes. The ending credit of each game and even a lot of the DLCs explain it quite explicitly

Well said Oxhorn. Well said. You really got the meaning of the Fallout catch phrase. The methods in which war is fought changes, but War itself does not.

Wow, that Cybertruck in your game does better in sand than the actual one 😂

I saw this in a MGS4 and Fallout intro comparisson. Now I am over simplifying the whole article but it boiled down to this. Both intros are right. War will never change because as long as humanity exist there will be war. Whether it be over resources, ideologies or survival; humanity's desire to conquer and strive for supperiority will always be present. War has changed because where in the past we saw war as a last result or a historic event from where legends and fables are born, now it has become a mundane thing. War has become entretaiment, a political tool, a news segement to fill the space between the weather and the 8 'o' clock news. An entire economy built around war beyond the battlefield. You put three people in a room and you will get 6 different opinions. Conflict is in our nature. But ironically, so is hope, love and decency. A quote that I love holds a lot of meaning. "All wars are civil wars. Because all men are brothers."

17:13 - slightly unrelated, but in 2015 when the game released, I thought Jun's portrayal was a bit overdramatic. However, a month ago, my little brother, who was raised mostly by me since we were birthed by absent narcissists, was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. I've been watching Oxhorn Fallout videos to keep my mind off of things, and saw his video on the Minutemen, which features Jun and Marcy's story - and when I saw Jun crying, mourning his son, I remembered that I was crying and saying the same things just a few days ago. Hits me in the gut now to hear him crying. My brother's only 31. It's been really difficult watching him suffer .

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