Why Do People Think Using This Controller is Cheating?

Glad you're still making FGC content, I thought those content were long gone

An underappreciated but big advantage to leverless designs is the ergonomic differences. I have a metal rod and several pins in my wrist from a motorcycle accident, and it made using stick painful over long sessions for me. Because of the way you use a hitbox design, it has relieved my wrist pain and allowed me to play again without stopping every 30 minutes because I was hurting. A lot of other players with carpal tunnel and similar issues have echoed the sentiment. It's not more comfortable for everyone, but it's a big deal for a lot of us.

man, it's crazy to me how these guys are at a level where a few milliseconds of input speed is such a massive advantage

It's funny how the FGC hated on keyboards for years, then someone invented a glorified keyboard with arcade buttons and now everyone says it's OP

This is the kind of content I subscribed for. I understand the need to keep up with the drama but pieces like this are the bread and butter of the channel, in my humble opinion.

Fundamentally, a hitbox has the exact same advantages that a keyboard would.

From an ergonomic perspective, when you move a joystick, your wrist and even your arm need to coordinate. Additionally, the force exerted on the joystick also affects the entire controller, especially when you operate it on your lap, it's difficult to avoid side effects. The advantage of operating a Hitbox is that you can control the direction solely through finger movement and pressing, which greatly simplifies the control process and avoids the side effects caused by the movement of the wrist, arm, body, and the controller.

You can either fully restrict the players to the exact same controllers and have them specified, supplied, serviced, secured, and supervised by tournament organizers, or you can leave the input choices completely up to the players use whatever input devices and control schemes they wish. The space between those two extremes will always be filled with players trying to bend and break the rules to their advantage, and the further you go into the murky waters in between, the harder it becomes to consistently and completely enforce whatever rules you have in place, making fair competition impossible This goes not just for fighting games, but for EVERY competitive video game that depends on reflex and skill, including FPS games, racing games, MOBAs, and RTS

wish you had brought up the "Optimal Potemkin Hitbox" it is really pushing the limits in interesting ways

I have been playing SF4 on a Keyboard since 2009( WASD+Numpad Layout) and whenever I told people Keyboard is THE MOST OP controller you can have, they all just laugh and now everyone is riding the bandwagon more than a decade later. 😪😪 I've got some combos and matches uploaded, so u can see execution is not the part where I fail much.

Melee is having similar controversies surrounding the hit box. I didn’t realize it was also affecting other FGCs

Love how the editor had Reimu up behind him. Based

I love how articulate Aris sounds when you catch him at the right moments. Whenever he's educating his chat and not yelling at them the dude lets slip how wise he really is lol.

Based reimu enjoyer. Also, interesting how much more complex the issue became in the Smash scene than in the general FCG. Most fighting games only register 8 directions but Melee cares about the full range and easy access to perfect full length wavedashes or other angle dependent tech could be unfair. Hax basically wrote a freaking PhD thesis to explain the angles he gave the B0XX access to.

It's really interesting how fighting games are a bit like F1 racing where we're trying to optimize as much as humanly possible to where 2-4 frame inputs are a massive advantage due to the inherent nature of stick/pad needing to travel.

I've been using ;=up /=down .=left '=right and asd=light-to-heavy punch zxc-light to heavy kick since the mid 90s. It's interesting to me how keyboards have gone from being derided as an inferior input device to arcade sticks to now being labeled as cheating. I'm surprised it took this long for people to figure out the limits of the stick compared to key's/buttons for directional input.

Last Input Priority seems to have the most advantage. Hold back button without releasing it and just push the front button + punch button anytime to perform a sonic boom.

Bro 14:33. Imagine a world where the hitbox is outclassed by the guitar hero controller. EVO 2030, all players have modded their guitars so light is strum down and heavy is up. The finals two players are duking it out by making sick riffs on their guitars as sonic booms and hadoukens fly across the big screen

This whole time I could have been playing fighting games on my PC with a keyboard lol. I thought the keyboard was inferior but this hit box is basically a streamlined keyboard.

To be fair, the HitBox is more ergonomically sound compared to a bat-top stick on top of the travel time. Also, if you were to remove the stick, you'd find, underneath on the control deck, four dip-switch buttons attached to the base of that stick. I see it as there's room for both control schemes. People should be free to pick which of the two they feel is right for them.