OTs-14 Groza: Russia's Over-Hyped 9x39mm Spetznaz Bullpup
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Publicado 2024-07-22
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The 9x39mm cartridge was introduced in the final days of the Soviet Union as a subsonic round intended specifically for suppressed weapons. The first weapons developed for it were the AS Val and VSS Vintorez. These were followed in the early 1990s by the OTs-14 "Groza", developed by Valery Tells and Yuri Lebedev at Tula. The concept was for a modular multi-purpose rifle which could be assembled on a mission-by-mission basis by special forces or police troops as required. The complete load out included a short barrel with vertical front grip, a longer barrel, an under barrel grenade launcher, and a telescopic sight. The base gun was an AKS-74U ("Krinkov") converted to 9x39mm. Only a few hundred were ever made, all of them converted from AKS-74U rifles rather than being built from scratch.
The Groza is an exotic and highly touted rifle in the west because it is extremely rare, but it was not really well liked by those who actually used it. It cannot be fired left-handed, it blows a lot of gas into the shooter's face when used suppressed, and its controls are rather awkward to use. the lofty original plan was to produce it in 9x39 for Spetznaz, 5.45 for the Russian Army, and 5.56mm NATO and 7.62x39mm for export sales. In fact, only the 9x39mm version was made and production took place only in 1994 and 1995.
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Todos los comentarios (21)
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Hats off to the veterans of the Chernobyl NPP who survived a 40+ minute corridor shooter against 100s of enemies with this thing.
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Ian probably bought this from Sidorovich for 20000 rubles.
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Honestly I sometimes think that the story of how places such as the Royal Armouries got these examples as part of their collection has to be far more interesting than the firearm themselves.
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But Ian, it's in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. it can't be over-hyped
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R fans see this gun the same way Fallout fans see a retro AR with wood furniture.
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Royal Armouries probably found this lying around in No.4 Reactor after the Brain Scorcher got shut down
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With the black gloves, black rifle, and black background, I thought my monitor was broken until Ian's pink wrist appeared 🤣
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This Cheekis my Breekis perfectly, thank you Ian.
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The 100m to 250m are lined up of the front post of the rifle sight and the 300m to 400m off the post on the muzzle shroud. It is why each side graduates in opposite directions and the front rifle sight post is slightly offset to the left and the post on the muzzle off to the right.
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The best part about this assembly is that nothing seems to be stopping the user from carrying the separate FCG around as a pocket grenade launcher
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Groza is such a funky system, I wish there were proper clones or kits for these
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NO WAY! I thought to myself yesterday, "It'll probably never happen but I hope Ian does a video on the Groza." You sir have made my week.
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Absolutely CRAZY to see this absolute unicorn of a gun in Ians hands, must be such an honor...
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A good Stalker weapon
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The first time I got my hands on this gun in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. was the best moment of my life.
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It's interesting to see how kludged together this weapon was. Reused receivers with missing components, trap doors from removed accessories, etc. The whole design looks like it was on an extreme budget.
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For a split second I thought you said "... assassinate a hostage, rescue a terrorist..." 😅
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That AK upper in there just makes this look bubba as all hell
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People: (photoshopping bullpup AK for cursed gun memes) Soviet Union: "I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you!"
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Reading the comments it seems that I am not alone in recognizing this gun from STALKER. I never noticed on the in-game model that it is basically just a bastardized AK-74 SU but the shared parts seem pretty obvious now upon seeing it up close. It is still super interesting how they put it together. I love the idea of a field customizable, modular system, that you can quickly configure for a particular mission, though I do see the opportunity for some pretty substantial down sides to a design like that. Ah well, I shall continue to employ the rule of cool while I saunter though the zone and leave the woes of real world design to be endured by the archives of historians like Ian 😂
