We Were Told To Leave The National Forest In Arizona - First Time In 3 Years As A Nomad

I am just going to tell you straight up and undiluted; you created this entire senario. You have camped for years and are familar with the 14 day stay. The problem here is that you have gotten away with it so many times; now you feel some sense of entitlement. This just adds fuel to the reasons why nomads have such a difficult time and feel the rules should be bent for them but no one else. Had you done what you were suppose to be doing all along, you would not have had this encounter. This sets a terrible example of what not to do. Plus the ranger was not giving you approval to stay as long as you want; its that you had a few remaining days to stay within your 14 days. The ranger did seem smug but regardless, you should of simply left on the 14th day and be appreciative that you had 14 days and not push your good fortune. Omg, even after getting to the next spot, that sign clearly said "ROAD CLOSED", but you just ignored it and was determined to have your way. I would not be suprised if you ran into trouble because of that. I have enjoyed your channel for a long time. You are very smart; creative and handy, but this surprised me. I hope you don't get offended by my honest comment.

I don’t understand why you can’t seem to understand? 14 days is 14 days ! The rules and laws are put in place, follow them. Nobody gets any special privileges. Just because you got by violating them in the past doesn’t make it right. It is just this type of behavior that makes us lose privedges and then everyone loses !

the 2 week rule is to give others opertunity to camp in that spot !

I don't understand why you think you'd be exempt from the rules. The free camping is a privilege. It isn't an entitlement.

Well I will take the side of the 14 day limit because every time my husband and I travel and try to pull over and stay at a spot for a night it is always full. I will bet this is partly why - some full timers are abusing the 14 day limit and living on these spots for extended periods.

Buddy, you admitted to breaking the rules multiple times. That's why so many camp grounds get closed and why parks keep getting more regulations. Follow the rules just like everyone else.

14 day policy is to keep people from squatting. Sucks when they squat on a premium spot for an extended period. Sounds like the ranger was pretty understanding.

Why would you think you didn’t have to follow the same rules everyone has to follow ?? Dispersed Camping in Undeveloped Areas • Whether in a developed campground or at a dispersed site, you may usually camp in an area for up to 14 days before having to move at least 25 miles from your original spot. You may not return to that area for 28 consecutive days.

14 day policy. He didn’t give you the ok to stay past 14 days.

LOL? Detour? The sign said “Road Closed”. Ranger: “You’re still here? Didn’t I mention the 14 day limit?” You: “You was serious about dat?” LOL. There seems to be a slight disconnect.

Other Nomads will confer that 2 weeks is the max in any National Forest

You're going to blame him now? You are the one staying more than 14 days. And when it says "Road Closed".......that's what it means. It doesn't say go ahead and we won't say anything. Sorry, my respect for you dropped a few points.

I work in a national forest. I frequently have to attempt to enforce the forestry rules. We live in a country that has chosen to limit its powers, though we know power can still be abused. There is an expectation of voluntary compliance with rules, but when people don't comply there is a greater chance of having to deal with enforcement. The powers that be need to try to equally apply the rules to all people to the best of their ability. I would much prefer that the people I interact with keep the very short list of rules that they are asked to keep, so that my life is not taken up with people who cannot govern themselves (drive the wrong way down or posted 1 way, won't pay the voluntary fees and posted in there windshield, won't put there fires out, won't keep their vicious dogs leashed. For every person who is not a bad actor who is just trying to enjoy the forest and have a nice experience, there are 1 or 2 groups of people who when they come around there's an increase in fighting, complaints, thefts, and drug activity. How can I enforce the rules on them but not on you? How can I get them to move along after 2 weeks if I'm going to selectively apply the law only to them and not to you? Would this be a just society? The way I see it, he had everything he needed to fine you and possibly a much worse experience, but he showed you mercy. During your 1st conversation he was attempting to show you more bark than bite hoping you would govern yourself and voluntarily comply. But his bark didn't work on you. You may not like me saying this, but some how in the world you inhabit, where you're the center of it, you thought that he was telling you he was just going to let you get by on following the rules, but that's not what he said and that's not what he meant.

I like your videos but man you got to follow the rules or we all end up paying the price. First you over stay at the first spot then drive past a road closed sign to get to the second spot not detour sign but road closed sign and you ignored it. Come on man

I’m confused. If there is a 14 day limit, there is a 14 day limit. Same like If a sign says no overnight parking, there is no overnight parking. If the sign says the road is closed it means don’t drive there the road is closed. A park near me once had a few basic rules for dogs like wearing a rabies tag. But so many people disregarded the rules you now have, on leash, rabies tag, paid for county dog license tag, restricted areas. So because some people avoided the rules now everyone has to deal with more rules. Animal Control stopped me and gave me a warning because my dog was wearing a harness and I had left her tags in my car. I knew the rules. I took the warning and moved on. It’s not my land.

I have always been wondering since I started watching your videos how you were able to stay in the same spot on public land for so long. Now I know - you have just been lucky so far. It does not surprise me you were asked to move. That is the rule. Since Covid there has been a huge surge in people living more full time on the road. Requiring everyone who uses public land to follow the rules gives more people opportunities to enjoy our public resources. Having to move to a new area every two weeks is the price we pay for the freedom of living the nomad life rent free on public land. I think it is a good rule and I am happy to see it being in forced. Your first post to YouTube for this location that you have been asked to leave was on March 27th three weeks ago.

Sounds like you have been breaking the 14 day limit for awhile now and finally got caught and told to move on so someone else can enjoy that area!

It keeps areas free for everyone's use. If they didnt have a limit locals could park their rigs all season and just show up when they wanted. People could set up and stay as if they lived there. It's a good use of the public land for everyone

I'd say your attitude is what caught the rangers attention and your idiocy is what prompted the return trip and it won't be the last if this is how you and your dog conduct yourselves on public land.

Just follow the simple rule and move every 14 days. We are damn lucky to have the privilege, don't screw it up for the rest of us. We love your channel, your vids and Lefty. Again, just follow the rules for all our sakes. I have read about campgrounds being closed down completely because of squatters.