How to HEAL Anxiety And Form CONFIDENCE As A Habit w/ Mel Robbins | Rich Roll Podcast

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Published 2022-12-12
Bestselling author & former CNN legal analyst Mel Robbins joins Rich to share her science-backed breakthroughs in parenting, marriage, anxiety, mindset, & more. To read more about Mel and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll723
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:08 - Positive Ripple Effects
00:06:31 - Accepting Compliments and Gifts
00:08:48 - Anxiety Theory - Early Childhood Mismatch with a Parent
00:19:52 - “Busyness” and Drive - Unsustainable Energy Sources?
00:30:57 - ‘The Campaign of Misery’
00:34:31 - Ad Break
00:36:02 - Healing Past Trauma / Guided Therapeutic MDMA Sessions
00:49:36 - How Does Mel Integrate Her MDMA Therapy into Everyday Life?
00:51:16 - Mel's New Venture into Podcasting
00:57:13 - Rich's Concern with MDMA Usage for Recovery
00:59:42 - Using MDMA to Confront Negative Patterns
01:04:22 - Mel's New Podcast Studio in Boston, Balancing Work and Life
01:08:15 - Rich's Advice with Running a Podcast Business
01:12:47 - Including Family Members / Family Issues in the Podcast
01:19:02 - Mel's Working On Not Trying to Fix Her Kids’ Problems
01:25:17 - Addressing Daughters and Having "The Talk" / Open Communication
01:31:44 - Separate Lives: Navigating a ‘Busy’ Marriage
01:39:26 - Can You Be Happy Doing Nothing
01:40:49 - Temporal Landmarks and the ‘Fresh Start Effect’
01:45:18 - Closing Thoughts and Wisdom - Alignment

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All Comments (21)
  • Two of my favorite podcasters in the world--together. What did I do to deserve this?
  • @theanxietymd
    Thank you Rich and Mel. Mel, I can’t believe how much of my work you were able to absorb in your (only) 90 minute MEL ROBBINS PODCAST. I can’t tell you how happy I am that my work on ALARM has changed your perception of yourself in such a profound way, and that you are able to understand and explain my perspectives on “anxiety” and alarm so very well to do what you do so well and HELP OTHERS. I absolutely loved this interview!
  • @kaivenfenton
    I spent most of this day listening to you and Rich and writing to you. I hear you and your growth. I spent about seventy years trying to discover why I felt so flawed and defective as a female child growing up. Now, I live in the peace and joy that can never end. I also want a deeper connection with people, and have for years. I can only find people valuing internal life on podcasts, for which I am grateful. I am a female and needing, wanting to share my deep wisdom and knowledge with others like you, Rich and others do, but cannot create a podcast all by myself. I still live close to the way I did in the fifties in a forest in Oregon. This society seems so artificial to me because it values and rewards external material things much more than internal ones. The "pandemic" didn't flip a switch in me because I am deeply rooted in my true Natural Self that I discovered years ago. Nothing can disturb that place within. If you or anyone wanted to try something peaceful, preferably in warm weather, sit quietly and alone on the ground, beside a weed, with Nature surrounding. Spend some time contemplating IT's Life deeply and see if anything happens inside of you....When I did this, tears automatically welled up in my eyes. It was much later I learned why that happened. My friend of over fifty years, lives in Brattleboro and if I ever get to visit him, I'd love to share a couple of things with you. You are in the right place, stay there, it is conducive to discovering the true and peaceful Mel already deep inside, hiding in plain sight.
  • Mel and Rich, for some reason Mel's little "rant" at the beginning about how you felt guilty about making people go to your studio made me emotional. I literally got tears in my eyes, because I do what Rich does all the time. I downplay what I do to help people as "self-promotion", when in reality I need to embrace it. And you Rich, you definitely need to embrace it. Your podcast is my favorite by far. It has changed my life for the positive in so many ways, and you have the best interviewees, like Mel Robbins, Seth Godin, Steven Pressfield, Guru Singh, Christopher McDougall and Eric Orton, Dan Buettner, Robert McKee, Peter Attia, Sen Corey Booker, Rain Wilson, Zach Bush, Dr. Richard Schwartz (I'm just naming the most recent interviewees whose books I've bought or YouTube channels and blogs I've consumed as a result of listening to them on your podcast). Keep it up and thanks Mel for the gentle reprimand!
  • This is the first podcast where I am taking your conversation into practice as a single mom of three. Thank you both so much for the work that you do. Grateful.
  • I just recently discovered you Mel,& am deeply grateful for your service!!!! I currently feel almost completely crippled with 24/7 severe anxiety!!!! Much much trauma since childhood,including narcissistic abuse,rape,violence,bullying,etc.My age is 58,& I've abstained from alcohol 16 yrs.,but while I'm homeless in a chaotic motel (8 weeks now, in Ashland,Oregon),I've felt like drinking,on/ off suicidal,DEEP despair & depression!!! When I listen to you,something shifts in me,to where I feel a tiny bit of hope.Thank you so very much for being REAL!!!! You are helping many!!!! 😌🙏🥰☮️🌹
  • @anikalee9012
    My breakthrough comes today. I feel so sick of my Anxiety. I feel anger. I allow the love from myself. I decided to be the mother who give the love I never have to myself. I will forever be there for myself and never let myself hurt anymore. Then noticed the wave of uncomfortable (that alarm) I told myself I'll never let myself go I love you. Today the whole day it's just a stress nerve tight. But because I changed that pattern in my brain can't make me feel anxious. I think it's now I officially break thought.
  • i love giving her books for Christmas...she is a boss lady
  • Yea, 1hr is nothing to drive! ...it may even be an important part of the transition from thier life to the studio and into presenting and participating in the encounter in a more full way. Its a journey into a truely valuable experience. Your a kind hearted guy Rich, a very sweet man <3 Thank you so much for all you present, invite and inspire!! So much gratitude to what I've received in watching these podcasts. Its amazing when someone really has a deep interest in transforming, growing and remembering we are all in the same boat together and holding each others hand, home. Again and again...and again...I love how our humaness is obviously diverse and similar, its such a celebration!
  • Mel, you should do stand up. You have the right wit, punch and honesty to use your experiences and truths for content. In a way you already do. Give up key note speaking and pick up comedy. Please. It could be incredibly healing and inspiring for both us and you. Not to mention predictably immediate sellout shows if your podcast is any gauge to go by! If there's anyone who could come swinging out left field as a comedian it'd be you 👏
  • @juliesill8074
    46 minutes in Mel says wait I need to figure this out … before it’s all over. That hit hard and sums up my reflections the year of my 60th revolves around the sun. Dang
  • @rudymalizia479
    Absolutely no mind altering substance! What I love about you are all you SOBER insights.
  • Listening to Mel is the first time I have EVER heard someone describe what I experience inside, and that I recognize coming from childhood experiences.. HUGE gratitute to both you, Mel and Rich, for such a substantive truthtelling conversation.
  • Rich is a big roll model for me he’s inspired me to eat better, treat myself better etc. big thanks this podcast
  • Wow, Mel, you just hit me with two whoppers in a row. 1. Many of us(me) are trying to find more happiness and we miss that feeling. “We can only miss things we know” so inside ourselves we have had that feeling and it’s just a matter of finding that feeling now. 2. The advice you gave your daughter about how to get unstuck. Drawing the line down the center of the page etc… That is so wise. Thank you. I realize I need to expand my “community” I miss being around friends who know and accept me.
  • @markwalton3367
    We are all flawed. I have a serious anxiety flaw. To witness 2 people discuss their flaws with honesty, insight and respect is a great learning opportunity for me. I have watched maybe 20 to 30 podcasts ever from different people. This is by far the best podcast I have ever viewed.
  • Thank you for this wisdom about the busyness of the campaign of misery and going within and shutting off the alarm bells.
  • How good that felt to have Mel say she wants to connect with normal people who are doing the best they can, and how she really wants to be somebody that makes you feel like somebody believes in you ... that YOU CAN do it ... that really hit home for me. I deal with a load of trauma myself (pretty well, if I can give myself some credit) and today am going through a divorce with two young kids. Some days are really rough and the anxiety, fear and stress feel like a hand around my mouth and nose trying to pull me underwater. I use many tools (stretch, meditation, reframing, journaling, etc.) to help myself get through. Would love to try MDMA therapy, and love that Mel and Rich, and other voices out here seem to give a crap about "stuff" like anxiety, and living a better, fuller, truer life.
  • @Saitama-pi8od
    right when I was gonna go to sleep this dropped. I guess I'm sleeping when the sun comes up.
  • Great conversation. Mel speaks of being addicted to busyness that is productive... that would be better than what I struggle with... I am the opposite unfortunately, I freeze when I have anxiety.