What a TOXIC PASTOR won’t tell you w/Michael Miller | Radical Radio with Robby Dawkins

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Published 2023-03-15
Welcome back to this episode of Radical Radio with Robby Dawkins. Everyone has stories of Toxic leaders in the church. Today Robby sits down with Michael Miller. They break down different church structures, share their experiences under toxic leadership, and Michael’s view on how the Church should be structured. Don’t miss part 1 of a two part series on Toxic Pastors!

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0:00 Introduction and Michael’s Story
6:30 Cycles of the Spirit
13:00 “Church” Culture vs Biblical Culture
16:30 Church Ecclesiology
22:00 Robby and Michael’s experiences
33:15 What does the Bible say about Church Structure
41:00 Michael’s Experience in Toxic Church
48:00 Pastors and member relationships
55:00 Closing thoughts

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All Comments (21)
  • @jq8974
    I was saved into a Brethren church as a child, and while they did not know the spirit, boy did they get body life right. We didn’t even have a pastor- folks took turns teaching and everyone helped out. I saw something like this with the Spirit in the 90’s in my little Vineyard church. It lasted until TO was booted out & our DNA changed. Been fighting for this living model ever since. It’s time.
  • This is such a massive problem in churches. May the Lord comfort and heal those who have been subject to these abuses.
  • Corporate mentality makes it difficult for people to feel Gods love.
  • @lindapero841
    This is so good! We are going through this 😮
  • I was told for years any vision besides the Pastor’s was DI-vision.
  • @jq8974
    Such an important topic. The best church experience I ever had was a while back in another city, but what stood out was all the leaders truly knew each other and loved each other, and each welcomed new friends into their worlds - we weren't below their connection. Simple as that. Later, I saw how they had good governing structures and all, but the first thing I noticed was the genuine love and friendship in a place that worshiped beautifully and moved in the Spirit. The love stood out. Never saw that before. And still hard to find now ♥
  • @curtisroth
    I would love to hear more about the “cyclical” nature of the acts of the Holy Spirit. Great stuff guys ❤ Thanks for letting us in on the convo 🐑👀❤️‍🔥🙏🏻
  • I’m currently attending a Baptist church and we are studying the structure of the church through a book called Biblical Eldership written by Alexander Strauch and also learning there are many places in the Bible that we can learn from how the church “government” should be. I never realized how important it was to learn about this. It’s also very interesting.
  • God just gave me the green light a couple of months ago to leave the toxic church I was in. Thank you for exposing this 👏 The Pastor is a type A personality that manipulates the leadership for his vision not the vision of God.
  • Iron sharpens Iron. Loved to hear two brothers keeping each other sharp.
  • The prayer at the end ... 🤯🤯🤯🤯 my very prayer daily. Thank you all for this! Much much needed!
  • @annpage2036
    Almost every Christian needs to hear these truths in this podcast and in Part 2 podcast. It’s a must for identifying and healing. ❤❤❤
  • This reminds me of the Hall and Oates song: "You've Lost that Loving Feeling." This is hurting the church. I love how Michael Miller systematically addresses all the points in this interview. 🙏 ❤
  • Yes at the end when you said you were blamed for your own abuse. I was blamed for my own abuse! That’s been maybe the hardest. But I absolutely pray and pursue forgiveness. My heart breaks at times for the abusers.
  • I felt the Holy Spirit when you explained about the Revelation to Peter of Jesus being the Rock and when you said about apostles being missionaries.
  • @marlareid580
    Your story about how your pastor asked what your "vision" was for the youth group reminds me of a question a Sr. pastor asked my husband at one of their first meetings. The pastor said, "What is your 5 year plan?" (This church was a super small struggling church and my husband and I just left a large one as the Spirit miraculously led us to volunteer at this one. Also my husband gave up the opportunity for a well paid IT position at a mega church at this same time) My husband responded, "If I had a 5 year plan this church wouldn't have been on it!" 😅
  • @curtisroth
    I see an astounding connection between Jesus healing with the mud/Pool of Siloam & Nehemiah 3:15. The pool is found on the other side of the "Fountain Gate" which can also be translated as "Eye Gate."
  • @his4evr2c
    Yeah Michael Miller and Robby Dawkins Thanks LORD GLORY Hallelujah Thanks for sharing this Robby Dawkins team