Cannon Armed Sabres in the Korean War

yes, Yes, YES on the garrison video

82ND AIRBORNE 2 hours ago?? Ill take it!! Amazing how they figured out the problem with the gasses.

The Australian air force used twin 30mm Avon canons as their armament, which I believe offered the best of worlds? Although to the best of my knowledge were never used in Korea.

Exactly named F86F-2

Great video 👍

An excellent presentation. You got all the details spot-on correct. 👍 You really should do a video on Vermont Garrison. You could do one or two of his missions in each of the three wars in which he fought. I believe all the relevant aircraft are available in DCS.

At the 51st Fighter Wing at Osan AFB, all the Korean war aces has their picture there and a narrative of their exploits.

Very interesting video, as usual. I must however share here my skepticism about the matter of the gun gas of the 20 mm cannons causing compressor failure and the subsequent flame out of the Sabre's engine. The NR-37 and NS-23 cannons of the MiG-15bis were positioned even forward and caused even bigger balls of gas than the M39 of the F-86F-2 GUNVALs, but there was never a single case reported by the Soviet side of a flame out or engine failure because of "gas ingestion". NONE. Furthermore, the loss of the two GUNVAL Sabres that you mentioned, which took place on 25 January and 30 April 1953 (involving the pilots Murray Winslow and future ace Lonnie Moore respectively), match perfectly with the Sabre kills claimed by two MiG-15bis fliers - Piotr Blinov (535 IAP of the 32 IAD, three Sabre kills under his belt) on 25 January 1953, and the ace Vasiliy Lepikov (415 IAP, 133 IAD) on 30 April 1953 respectively. IMHO the "gun gas" is a very cute explanation to do not credit those losses to the actual cause: MiG-15 fire.

I love your videos man, could you do a video on the Canadian pilots on exchange during the Korea war

The MIG-15 was equiped with 2 cannons of 23mm and one of 37mm, all was used during the second world war. But in the corean war it was for destroying the big bombers like B-29 at high altitude, roughfly 9000 meters around 30.000 feets because the MIG-15 is an excellent climber, better than the F-86. Concerning the USA, that is important is the quantity of ammunitions and the rate of the cannon and its caliber does not overtake 20mm. The F-8 CRUSADER, called the last gunfighters had four cannons of 20mm. Not in the A-10 THUNDERBOLT II which is equiped with a special cannon of two tons for destroying tanks. You have the same problem with the Phantom II during the Vietnam war, at the beginning it had no cannon. In the USA, they used a rotative cannon like a Gatling system of 20mm. The russian and the french have cannon of 30mm for destroying the big bombers and you can use them for strafing wuth special shells. The germans used the 27mm like the MAUSER. Each country has her own choice in fact, the British used the cannon ADEN of 30mm.

I appreciated this technical video. I was also not aware of cannon armed Sabres. Great work, as usual. Thank you!

The USAAF-USAF proved long overdue to installing cannon armament on fighter aircraft, the exceptions being the P-38 Lightning which brandished one, Hispano 20mm cannon in its nose section and the P-39 Airacobra which mounted a 37mm cannon or a 20mm in the export version. The U.S. Navy began turning to cannon armament by the end of World War 2. It took the new USAF the lessons of jet aerial combat against Soviet-built MiG-15s in the skies high over North Korea beginning in late 1950. U.S. Air Force F-86A Sabre jet fighters noted the distance between combat aircraft had opened up due to the higher jet speeds. The venerable Browning M2 0.50 heavy caliber machine gun proved wanting as the six guns lacked stopping power. Many of the 0.50 caliber bullets were striking the MiG-15 at a shallow or oblique angle and ricocheting off. Give the USAF due credit for responding quickly this time. In 1952 North American duly responded with a cannon-armed F-86F Sabre. This Sabre employed four, Hispano short-barreled 20mm cannon. There were initial problems. Firing all four 20mm cannon poured exhaust smoke into the turbojet, causing it to cut-out and stall. The quick remedy was to stagger the firing sequence of the four cannon. The penultimate F-86H Sabre mounted four Hispano short-barrel cannon as part of its design features. The F-86H, however, was actually an interim Sabre fighter while the F-100 Super Sabre fighter entered mass production, operational service and training, all of which took years.

Another great video 👍

Thank you! Another great video 👍 Well, USAAF love for 12,7 reminds me about RAF love for 7,62 machine guns in pre WWII years. Luckily they found the mistake and switched their planes to cannons in 1941-42. USAAF got to repeat RAF’s way after WWII through Korea. However, US Navy got wiser, and never used machine guns in Korea👍

The project Gunval. 10 F86F converted and send to Korea. But 2 stay in Japan. One lost following flame out, . Powder smoke go in air intake, and stall😢

Another fascinating video with skilled and tasteful use of sim "footage".

Those MIG. 15s were something else! They were better in most ways!

Korea was where air-to-air combat was flown the highest compared to any other war right? Because no SAMs yet and the opposing sides' most cutting-edge aircraft had significantly different service ceilings?

Interesting that they put 2 former RAF pilots together. No accident I'm sure. I have to wonder why the F86 ingested all that cannon smoke and the Mig15 (with bigger cannons) didn't?

Muy interesante. Cómo todos los vídeos que publicas. Me encanta la temática de la guerra de Corea. Gracias!