Who deserves the blame for the Blue Jays' ugly season?

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Published 2024-07-15
Is Blue Jays management to blame for the team they built, or should this season be on the players for their performances? Bryan Hayes joins SC with Jay Onrait to dive deeper into Toronto's issues.

All Comments (21)
  • @steveb9713
    Rogers, not giving AA full control and allowing Shapiro to meddle with everything on the field led to the confusion of pulling berrios when he was dealing in the playoffs
  • @ryantobin1007
    Atkins. If you're not sure watch the HR Derby last night.
  • @BrokeredHeart
    I would like to draw a compare and contrast between the Jays and the Baltimore Orioles. Baltimore was headed nowhere fast during the same time period the Jays were declining, 2016 until 2022. They were horrible, and went into rebuild mode, trading away assets for draft picks, establishing a new young core with guys like Rutschman and Henderson to lock down their roster. Toronto had their great prospects too, but they've been inconsistent (Biggio, Guerrero, Bichette, Manoah), and they traded away picks and prospects for cash options leaving their bullpen devoid of any good arms. They traded away stars and bullpen relievers to pick up middling to mediocre players, they let veteran talent walk, or spent big money to attract names like George Springer and Kevin Gausman which did yield results, but they were wiped out by underperformance in key games and regular season series. They parted ways with their young players like Lourdes Gurriel Jr and Gabriel Moreno to snag a player like Daulton Varsho and keep Alejandro Kirk, which was a horrible move. And they got rid of their reliable batter in Teoscar Hernandez which is still baffling, because it completely disrupted the dug out. They've rotated through coaching staff, changed the stadium, and dumped all sorts of players and cash into this team with little to show for it, and worse results each passing season. The only thing that has remained constant throughout has been their corporate ownership under Rogers, and the pathetically inept managing by Atkins and Shapiro. They can point to the lackluster performances by the players this season all they want, but the Blue Jays woes have been around for longer than the assembled roster. There's seemingly no discipline or accountability, so why would the players go out of their way to exceed expectations, and why would the fans side with the front office? Put Click in Atkin's office and let's right the ship - finish the season as their litmus test to see what still could work as the core to build around, and then hit refresh! Put this entire decade of mediocrity in the rearview and press forward.
  • @jackoakes1998
    The FO Atkins guys over stayed his welcome by 3 years, every year you let him stay on we fall a year behind everyone else For god sake get rid of Atkins already!
  • Atkins... How do you trade Moreno for Varsho straight up? Not even with Gurriel in the deal. Rather have Kirk clogging up the basepaths the few times he gets on? We've needed a quality left handed bat forever and its never happened. Bellinger would have been great. The fact this guy hasnt been fired is the most troubling part
  • Honestly I feel like Atkins and Shapiro have been whipping boys since 2016 when AA led us to our first division title and playoff appearance since 1993 AND THEY LET HIM WALK FOR NOTHING.
  • The BlueJays have been brutal to watch. Hoping they can turn it around next year. This year is gone.
  • @lambo2655
    Atkins never should have traded Teoscar to get an under performing middle relief pitcher in Swanson. Teo was a key part of that offense and morale in the clubhouse. The deal to get Varsho, they once again gave up too much to get one player. The bottom line give Atkin's the boot at the end of the season.
  • @mactcampbell
    National anthem singers' voices should be required to have a range of at least one full octave.
  • @Redz1991
    Atkins and Shapiro both got rid of all our good offence teo , gurriel , Moreno , semien . Can you imagine we still had just even teo and gurriel jr ? Gurriel is on pace for 90+ RBIs , teo is going to get 30-40 hr , 100+ RBIs .
  • Shapiro may be great at😅 renovations, but that is finished. He was responsible for hiring the misfits that were selected to manage player staffing and coaching. The worse choice was a former Yankee HOF who wrecked the swings of several Jay's who believed a HOF batter could teach them how to hit with a Hall of Fame swing. Some Jays seem to realize the swing changes were not lnstant fixes and went back to their old reliable swing after a month of futility. The Jays manager constantly made bad choices in managing the bullpen that led to blown leads and losses. No lead was safe. The Best receivers sat on the bench and worst receivers were called in to put out a rally, another blown lead and a loss.
  • @OGS2099
    Mark Shapiro is most responsible. He hand picked Ross Atkins, a below average GM, as his general manager. As President & CEO he's responsible for the ENTIRE baseball club. The Blue Jays are not in a good state overall after his 9 years in charge. He needs to go & his staff with him.
  • @11matt11
    In the end, this 100% Rogers fault. They wanted to make money from the team only, so instead of bringing in someone to work with the now fully seasoned Alex Anthopoulos, they brought in Cleveland cost management experts Shapiro and Atkins, not worrying about the product on the field. So, not shockingly, the Jays have become a Indians/Leafs hybrid that was so predictable, and may not win another world series for at least another generation. Meanwhile, AA has signed the Braves young deep talent to reasonable long term contracts, while the Jays have signed none of them, and they are already starting to leave. There is a good chance they will all leave. This is not how you run a winning franchise, when you have such a strong fan base. But that was known in 2015, and Rogers still did it.
  • Mark Shapiro, Ross Atkins, and skipper Schneider take all the blame on this debacle. If it is not the constant whifs in the draft, the bad free agent signings, the mishandling on the contract extensions, the analytics in the playoffs stunt pulled by Atkins. This team shouldn't be this bad, but I truly believe that the players on this team have quit on Atkins and Schneider. Atkins has to be fired, and Schneider as well. Bo needs to be traded at the deadline, as well as Bassit, Kuech, Garcia, Manoah traded in the offseason.
  • How about all the players especially the bullpen that has been a nemisis for the Blue Jays organization for years. How many games where the Jays where winning by 1-3+ runs and the bullpen comes in ,in the late innings and blows the lead - to many to count.
  • Imagine what Auto-tune can turn normal people into professional singers nowadays...
  • @lavantz345
    I think the wild card loss x2 affected some players more than others. Bichette seems disinterested staying with the team now. I can tell the passion isn't there like it once was. But he and the others are also at fault for not performing well during the wild card
  • @wendigo53
    I won't attend a game until Pete Rose is in the hall of fame (and not as a visitor).