Weirdly Complicated Things in Pokémon Games

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"I thought it would be confusing for people and kind of hard to understand how it worked." To this day, I am convinced that he never should've said that, because we'll be on that quote FOREVER.

Inspired by a conversation I had on stream back in April of 2022, this is a brief breakdown of some of the most weirdly over-complicated things in a series that apparently removes certain things for being "hard to understand".

Gen 2 stat generator: pycosites.com/pkmn/stat_gen2.php
Gen 2 Catch Rate Calculator: www.dragonflycave.com/calculators/gen-ii-catch-rat…

Music used:

0:00 - Intro ♪ Sinjoh Ruins - Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver
4:55 - OR/AS Regigigas ♪ Title Screen - GBA E-Reader
10:35 - Bug-Catching Contest ♪ Hot Pursuit - Gravity Rush 2
20:25 - Mirage Island ♪ Subconscious Domain (Winter) - Xenosaga Episode II
26:48 - Outro ♪ Moongroove by Mystery Jayne

The Stream Art that inspired this video: www.deviantart.com/iinneus/art/Stream-Art-He-Never…

All Comments (21)
  • @jfb-
    regigigas is like one of those "my uncle works at nintendo" stories
  • @SweaterPuppys
    I was hoping Mirage island would be on here because I actually seen it as a kid once and my brother didn’t believe me for years before he seen it on bulbapedia.
  • @ronarscorruption
    I laughed so hard with your delivery of "no regis, no evolutions, no stats... our first topic is the regis". Great line, flawless delivery
  • @JrIcify
    The steps to finding regigigas sounds like those fake rumors people would make up, like if you beat the pokemon league 1000 times you get mew, or if you walk around in a specific sequence you'll activate walk through walls mode. Maybe this ridiculous wild goose chase is their tribute to that era of the fanbase.
  • @billuminati3867
    As one of the few kids that bought an action replay at 11, it feels weird to have experienced all the events in diamond and pearl I never knew they didn’t release til I was an adult
  • @onioniscool
    11:28 casually catching a legendary beast in the Pal Park. Completely normal bug type here
  • @CTHD13
    Here’s the thing- I honestly like Mirage Island. Back in the day they were still trying to create schoolyard mysteries. They made the island rare enough that only a few kids in each geographical area would see it, and rumors would spread about it easily.
  • @deltaquarayza
    The weirdest thing about the Regis in RSE is that the Poké Dolls look far more like them than their real overworld sprites
  • @danashton5265
    When I was a kid, the first time I spoke to the old man he told me that Mirage island was visible that day. So I went and checked it out. On the island I could only find woobofett and thought the island was boring so I left not thinking anything of it. Years later I find out it's pretty much the rarest encounter in pokemon and I foundd first time!
  • @flamingpaper7751
    The Regigigas thing doesn’t do it for me because why is Regice the only one you have to do stuff with? Would it have killed them to do something silly with Registeel and Regirock too? Maybe Regirock needs to be at least level 87 and know the move Rock Climb and Registeel needs to have been in the Daycare for at least 1,000 steps and also be asleep while in your party. Go all the way silly
  • @KonroMan
    I genuinely think I’ve never talked to that girl in Pacifidlog and still have caught Regigigas, I think she’s merely an in game hint to help you with finding it.
  • @darthh3atran
    The issue I take with the Masuda quote is that Spear Pillar is one of the most important plot locations in the game, and the place you activate the Azure Flute resembles a FLUTE
  • @johnmarkther2218
    When i was tiny and messing with an action replay on pokemon pearl (?), i actually stumbled upon shaymin by using noclip to run into the oceans. We didnt have internet back then so we couldnt get event pokemon, and id never heard of shaymin. i remember showing it off to my older brother and him getting real excited As a child it always felt like there was so much to discover in those games (:
  • @cryotheamayzo5445
    Yeah, I recall being fascinated by Mirage Island as a kid. I believe around 8 or 9 years old I actually lucked upon it and I had no prior knowledge or cheats besides "Wow this old man is probably onto something." I recall being extremely excited by the island but that died down when I realised there was nothing too notable there. I think kid me was expecting something like a legendary, maybe a pokenon never seen before or at least something like a Mew. So yeah, pretty cool experience. Almost makes up for that time my older brother tricked me into releasing a pokemon with PokeRus (Because "Your pokemon is sick and will die!") or when the first shiny I encountered in years was a Growlithe that used Roar.
  • @kohakustella
    It's so funny that in the same couple of years, we got both the "azure flute is too complicated", "people play smartphone games so we're dropping the frontier", and "hahahaha I don't know"
  • @nightfrostbreeze
    I vaguely remember finding an island with just Wynauts in Pokemon Emerald when I was a kid, but I didn't think too much of it at the time. Crazy to think that random island was way more rare than a shiny
  • @hi-i-am-atan
    the funny thing about finding this video today is that it's also the literal same day that i experienced something that makes me feel like i kinda get the masuda quote. i've been playing elden ring for the first time lately, and there's a point in ranni's questline where she tasks you with hunting down a "baleful shadow." there is no explanation for what a "baleful shadow" is, just that they're the assassins of her enemy. so i continued down her quest dungeon and killed shit and got to the point where a barrier stops you if you don't have a "ring of oath." ranni's dialogue has yet to change, so i figure none of what i killed was a shadow most baleful, and instead it's something out in the greater world. i check all the spots i can think that are related to her and nothing. i check a few spots that i don't remember exploring all that thoroughly and nothing. i'm at a point in the game where only a ( relatively ) small chunk of the map has yet to be filled, so i'm uncertain if there's some sorta progression gate in place, but i hope for the best and just put it off for later this morning, though, i decided to look up a completely unrelated questline because i was pretty confident that i uncovered it waaaay too late ( turns out: yes, i had already dealt with literally its penultimate boss ) and wasn't sure if all the necessary actors were still alive. since it was then made clear that it was indeed still possible to complete, but only by doing something i'm not sure i would've thought of, i later decided to peek at how you get the ring of oath and ... the baleful shadow is an enemy that is literally named "baleful shadow," and you find it by going to the checkpoint with that ranni conversation and walking down the hall into the next room i had my progress in the questline slowed to a standstill by the steps that go "talk to ranni" followed by "continue forward" solely because i did those in the wrong order it's one of those things that made me appreciate, as an amateur game dev, how easy it is to make something as simple as walking down a hallway show-stoppingly confusing if you do not make said simplicity abundantly clear, solely because players are unpredictable creatures who will take whatever scraps of mystery they can sniff out and imagine a grand feast where there's really just a bag of mcdonald's you left sitting for two hours. i actually don't have a hard time imagining peeps getting the azure flute and just never figuring out how to use it, even knowing it's for arceus and that arceus is associated with spear pillar, solely because ... i mean, surely there's gotta be more to it than retreading old ground that leads nowhere and getting a prompt to use this fancy event item, right?
  • @chibiraptor
    The original bug catching contest is complicated, but i dont think you're SUPPOSED to figure it out. I think Its intended to feel a bit impossible to figure out, but to clearly reward harder to catch bugs with higher stats. You probably wont need to do the contest more than 5-10 times in order to get the items you need.
  • @rtr360josh7
    I found mirage island about a week before my battery on emerald dried out and didn’t understand what happened. In retrospect that’s probably the luckiest thing I’ve ever done in a game
  • @Double_T_G
    Game freak clearly never meant for everyone to see mirage island. I think they only wanted like 3 people to ever find it and then they could plant that berry and trade it around. I think febass was meant to be this way too, but to a lesser extent. Unfortunately, openly liking pokemon was social suicide so I never got to experience any of the social aspects.