Magic Kingdom's Broken Fantasyland

New Fantasyland made us lose one of the most classic Disney dark rides in Snow White… for a meet and greet… that they could’ve built… I dunno… ANYWHERE else in the land?

The Disneyland folks do not have the luxury of space, but they still made it work. The Disney World folks have so much space to work with, and they just let it flounder.

Removing a dark ride and replacing it with a meet and greet is probably one of the most heinous things Disney has done. At least reskin it to something else

Tangled bathrooms are probably the most disrespectful way to pay homage to their properties

The problem with Disney's current leadership is that it is not customer centric. It is corporate centric with squeezing out as much money from as few people as possible. Overprice everything so fewer people can go, but make those that do pay disproportionately more than if there were more people at the parks. Lighting Lane is a perfect example of this thinking.

The Beast’s Castle is the worst use of forced perspective I’ve ever seen. It’s 30 feet tall and, instead the FP making it look larger, they somehow managed to make it look even smaller than it really is.

I don’t understand why Disney completely abandoned the C-Ticket level “fantasyland style dark ride”. Literally every park at WDW (including Magic Kingdom) would benefit from adding them. I believe the idea that “every new ride must be an E-Ticket” started under Iger, but it’s not true, every park needs filler attractions— a park that lacks this the worst is Hollywood Studios

I never understood mine train. Like it’s so similar to big thunder that is in the same park and this version is shorter and worse. And tangled could be an epic ride but we get restrooms….

I love you ideas! But I think it would make more sense if the entire expansion area was the villains land. Instead of a bridge, it can be a dark cave with “turn back” signs, maybe even bring over a clone of the sleeping dragon from DLP? The cave bridge would narrow the focus in for the guests, make them feel a bit claustrophobic, open their pupils up, and then BAM, they’re suddenly in this crazy magical and evil themed area that feels entirely separate from the rest of fantasyland. And there’s enough villains to fill that place up with well themed dark rides, flat rides, meet and greets shops, restaurants, and interactive experiences. The maleficent coaster, the hades boat ride u mentioned, skull island exploration/playground, maybe a stage show, a more thrilling flat ride and one or two less thrilling, “Haus of DeVille” which could be the evil equivalent to Bibbidi Boppity Boutique, I mean the possibilities r endless with it really. But yeah, that’s the only change I’d make to ur blue skies plan.

A boat ride themed after the River Styx from Hercules is a top tier idea, my dude.

Totally agree with you that Disney should focus more on fully decorating their dark ride scenes, even if that means limited animation for the audioanimatronics. The rides that have lasted all these decades—Pirates, Haunted Mansion, etc.—don’t spend all their time building up to one impressive robot, but instead build atmosphere (and dare I say, wonder!!) with highly detailed scenes, lighting, and characters. Another great video!!

As someone who just went to Fantasyland, I can confirm at least one thing: it’s a small world is in DESPERATE need of repairs!!

I have a crazy idea. Move it’s a small world to Epcot. It fits with the world unity theme as well as the worlds fair theme considering it premiered at the 1964 one in New York. Then use its old ride building in Fantasyland for one or several new dark rides.

I remember years ago when I was very young going to Disneyland in anaheim. All the kids were so excited especially looking for Mr. Walt Disney in the park who was in disguise. I knew Walt Disney arrived to monitor the operation of his park and its employees. His stay in the park was approximately 1 hour. I know this because the intercom came on with someone stating Mr. Walt Disney had left the park in that period of time. Entrance fees into the park were reasonable, we didn't pay for parking, merchandise was of the highest quality along with food within the park. Those were great memories.

Toad and Snow White also were probably taken out since nothing could be “scary” anymore for kids. They both had frightening elements for kids (I could attest). Instead of embracing the element of freights, different than coaster “thrills,” dark rides are veering away from what they were derived from at amusement parks. Little Mermaid is fine, but there is nothing on it that scares my kids like the Mr Toad train or Snow White Queen/hag scared me as a kid. Kids are still allowed to get scared!

Personally, I would have loved to see them bring the Tokyo Beauty and The Beast ride over. Also, getting rid of Snow White for a meet and greet was such a waste of space.

I would start with the following: 1. Update Peter Pan to as close to the ride in Shanghai as possible. Needs a major referb 2. As someone else mentioned, move small world to Epcot and use the space for something else. Personally I’d love to see an Aladdin dark ride. Maybe model it after pans flight but in this case be on a magic carpet flying through Agrabah, the palace, the cave of wonders etc. always felt magic carpets of Aladdin was a poor representation of the movie. 3. Definitely close enchanted takes with bell and the restaurant and bring the ride in Tokyo here. They could even add more to their version. 4. Add a Hercules based food stop, a gyro shop. It’s cheap, easy and quick. 5. Definitely get rid of tomorrow land speed way. It’s outdated, smells and the space could be used for something much better.

The fact that they got rid of Mickey’s Toontown Fair is even more tragic. That was a great place that could have remained

Honestly, I’d be interested to see this kind of walkthrough/review/“fix-it” for the rest of the lands in Magic Kingdom.

Honestly, I'd love if WDW add more Disneyland-style dark rides for animated classics they haven't done yet. Aladdin, Lion King, Fantasia, Robin Hood, Lady and the Tramp, ect.