What Happened to TWO-FACE? The Lost Batman Movie Explained

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The scene of Harvey losing his coin and freaking out because of it still gets to me to this very day.

One thing I don't like about Harvey in the stories is that the writer also write him as a villain and NOT a good and bad guy trap in one body. So everytime two face is a side villain, he ends up being no different to a mob boss who likes fairness. Two face should be a villain where half the time, Harvey is morally conflicted and would try to help batman stop two face. Not two face being an antagonist 100% of his and Harvey's screentime

What would have been interesting is further exploration of Harvey's THIRD personality, The Judge.

I think the question of "how much of Two-Face's body is burnt?" Is always just gonna be one of those things where the design comes first and the logic comes second. I remember playing Arkham City and in Two-Face's audio logs he recounts the classic Two-Face origin of "a mobster in a court room threw a tiny bottle of acid at me." When like, you can see his entire left arm has been completely burned, just as badly as his face. And in concept art, you can see his entire leg has been burned too.

“That’s why we can’t do a BTAS complete timeline because of stuff like this!” In fairness to Timm, Dini and the other writers, I don’t think they imaged a group of nerds 20 years later would want to meticulously document all the events of their world in a neat, chronological order and so long as every episode/issue didn’t conflict with anything else in their recent memory, they were good. 😂

I have to admit, I’m more familiar with the Two of.a Kind story than the other one. I think it’s a stronger story, but if it were to come out animated I’d pair it with the Scarecrow story where Jonathan Crane returns to college as a teacher and has to deal with a student who abused his girlfriend.

'Two of a Kind' is my favorite, since it delves into Harvey Dent's struggles to overcome his split personality only to be pulled apart again by a set of twins who are basically a female version of himself in two separate bodies. It's just appropriate for the character within the BtAS universe. Still, 'Two Timer' might have its place somewhere in continuity as one of Harvey's many false starts on the road to ultimate redemption.

I've always liked "Two-Timer" as the follow-up...because when you look at it, it's "Othello." (Two-Face is Othello, Joker is Iago, Grace is Desdemona, Bruce is Cassio, and Harley is Emilia) So it could get its proper recognition from Shakespearean scholars as well.

I've always loved how Victor Freeze's voice actor sounded like, like a distant muffled voice.

I don't think there's anything incompatible in these stories. The events of "Second Chance" happen. Harvey goes back to Arkham. He makes progress, and they're planning to have his restorative surgery once again. The Joker plays his mind games with Harvey in "Two-Timer," Grace ends her relationship with Harvey, and Harvey goes back into Arkham. Harvey again makes progress, and as he's now a single man once again, he's free to begin a relationship with his plastic surgeon Dr. Marilyn Crane. (Even though a doctor getting romantic with someone she's treating is a really, REALLY bad idea). Harvey has the surgery. He's released from Arkham, and the events of "Two of a Kind" occur. Harvey relapses -- Possibly even worse than before -- and he's now in the condition we see him in for the revamp episodes. (My personal feeling is that after the additional damage he does to his face in "Two of a Kind," Harvey's disfigurement is now beyond the ability of plastic surgery to repair, but that's just my headcanon.) And, when you factor in his last BTAS episode, "Judgment Day," he's now developed an ADDITIONAL personality to contend with. So yeah, despite incremental progress and isolated moments where it looks like he'll make a full physical and mental recovery, Harvey just gets worse and worse over time. One step forward, two steps back. :)

I feel like Two of a Kind could work incredibly well as an episode in the upcoming Batman: Caped Crusader show, as it has the darker tone the show will possibly have

You should draw a character model for Two-Face based on the Two of a Kind story. Like with burned flesh colors instead of blue skin. Could be a cool alternate timeline design.

I really like the idea of all of these being in the main canon. Harvey is shown with four main love interests in the extended timeline (Ivy, Grace, Marylyn, Madeline). Two of them good, honest people who want Harvey to live his best life; two of them rotten to the core and trying to bring him down (one literally by trying to kill him). Good and bad, double or nothing. Harvey gets involved with Marylyn after Grace moves on with her life, and Grace's prediction that the other guy will always come back is proven right after the coal incident. (Sidenote, if I were writing this story I would have Harvey track down the same chemical substance from the factory, light a match, and pour the flaming substance across half his body. It's much more methodical, disturbing, and unsettling.) Then when he actually gets the cure and moves to LA, it's his second time getting cured, and it finally sticks. Another example of double or nothing. You can even tie in his scenes with Judgement Day and Fatal Five. The encounter with the Judge is the inciting incident that manages to push Harvey back over the edge onto the good side. In Fatal Five he befriends Starboy in Arkham and is shown trying to keep his anger under control. Even Big Bad Harv seems a lot softer. If you want to go really dark with this story, you could say that the Judge killed Big Bad Harv inside their own mind world. This could be an interesting story in and of itself with Harvey having a trial in a fantasy world he creates where he convinces the Judge to shut up and let him take the reins again. That explains how he gets to the point where he's able to move to LA and live his final years in peace.

As far as which would be a better animated movie I'd say "Two of a kind" the darker story seems better fit for a movie, as far as canon goes I think it's a little too dark for the DCAU and that "Two Timer" fits better taking place after "Second Chance". "Two Timer" would also have made a great episode in the series.

Looks like the TWO face movie was TOO long TO be turned inTO a movie.

I love that this video was 22:22 and I would like to see two of a kind animated as a more dark story in the dcau and I have been telling people for years how much better this two face is in the dark Knight one and I think from now on I'll just show them this video after the episode Two-Face of course

"Two-Timer" I think better fits since it doesn't involve Two-Face going through with the surgery which will explain why his appearance is more consistent going into the New Adventures. But man I'd love to see a fully Animated "Two of a Kind."

Honestly the “Two-Timer” series is better because it gives closure to Grace’s character

Two-Face is one of my favorite Batman villains. I binged all of his episodes today. Thanks for this video!