Angelic Weapons & Death in the Hellaverse: The Hazbin 'Plothole' Explained!

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Since the episode released I also just assumed that Vaggie was thinking since she turned into a Sinner she didn't have angelic regeneration anymore and thus the eye injury became permanent.

They should have worded it better to "I didn't know demons could harm angels." Angel on angel violence is a thing, she just didn't know demons could hurt angels.

My theory was that Vaggie probably first believed that only angels could bring harm to each other, not thinking that it was the weapons themselves. Therefore, when initially hearing that demons could kill them, she likely thought it was through their own unique means rather than using the angels' own weapons against them.

Clearly before the last two episodes of season one Adam and the exorcist like Lute and Vaggie didn’t know that it was their weapons never themselves that had the power to permanently harmed or truly kill a soul or another exorcist, if so the exorcist would’ve never left behind so many of their weapons after each extermination

Alastor also "killed" the old Overlords without angelic weapons. Made them disappear forever. Although I don't think he killed them, he most likely separated their souls from their bodies and ate them. It is also implied that the owners of souls can destroy the souls of their slaves without angelic weapons. When Alastor promised to tear Husk's soul apart, he pulled the chain as if it were his soul and if he broke it, he would destroy Husk's existence. That's why Angel has to come to Valentino's studio, he'll just kill him.

There is also the trauma caused by the injury. Cutting out an eye can be extreamly painful and the wings being ripped also would have been futher pain. In serious cases, it is possible for the brain to block out or not register important details of what happened. Such as how Vaggie blacks out just seconds after Lute and Adam take her halo. When she wakes up she is disoriented, she is able to comprehend that she has been abandoned and left for dead in Hell. But may have blocked out that an angelic weapon was involved in her injury.

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I agree with you about the "plothole" When it comes to Adam's holy beam, I head canon that he used it to forge the angelic weapons so they are at least equal in power with his beam potentially being more powerful than the weapons.

I do hope that angelic weapons get more expended in the series, because I think the difference when it kills you and when you barly survive can be kinda confusing ❤

If Adam’s lasers can permanently kill souls, perhaps Pentious ascended the moment right before the beam hit the ship, and perhaps we can get some insight on if this actually is what happened in season 2

She went against (presumably)gods orders, I wouldn’t be surprised if she assumed the angelic weapons just worked on her because of that

I think Adam, Lute, Vaggie and the Exterminators didn't know that their weapons that they left in Hell would be used against them, they thought they'll just heal from their injuries from the holy weapons and not being killed by the same thing that they used against the sinners.

I assumed Vaggie just didn't know that Demons could kill Angels. She was attacked by Lute, her eye cut out and her wings ripped off. She probably didn't think it was the weapons themselves that could do damage to them, but rather the fact that it was another Angel, and a higher ranking one at that.

I’m not sure if a holy weapon would kill Charlie, since her dad is so powerful, however her mom would be considered a sinner, idk where she would lye on that chart

This still feels like a major plot hole.

It's because Vaggie fell before and so she might have thought that she couldn't hurt Lute, but Lute could hurt her

Adam didn’t either. “They use our own weapons against us, that’s how they kill us!??” Or something like that in episode 8… safe to assume, no one knew

Could be that Vaggie thought that only Angels can harm other angels

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