We Exploded the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D & Melted the Motherboard
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Published 2023-04-29
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This video benchmarks and tests various points of failure for the AMD X3D CPUs in particular, but also just generally AM5 / Ryzen 7000 (Zen 4) CPU failures. The most eye-catching failure mode is catastrophic: Users have posted photos of exploded CPUs with blown-out motherboard sockets and melted plastic. We bought those parts from the users to perform a failure analysis, then set forth testing our own AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPUs to see if we could make them explode. Spoiler alert: It worked. We were able to melt new AMD X3D CPUs in the socket of an ASUS X670E Crosshair Hero motherboard, but we also found severe BIOS bugs in Gigabyte's BIOS. SOC voltage isn't the only concern, here. It's also poor OCP implementation on at least the ASUS board we used, plus a combination of the erosion of thermal and over-current protections. As stated in the video, no test of this type is fully conclusive: These are complex issues with functionally infinite variables between users (and possible error), manufacturers, BIOS versions, and AMD itself. As such, we can only speak to our findings in some instances -- but we have some that do point to specific issues.
We killed 2x 7800X3Ds and 1x ASUS motherboard, but we also had 2 failed CPUs and 1 failed board from viewers.
We will have at least 1 more part following this video up. We've sent parts out to the same failure analysis lab we worked with in our NVIDIA 12VHPWR content - it'll take a few weeks to put together.
Big thanks to Wendell at @Level1Techs - check out his channel!
Thanks to @der8auer for his guidance on delidding safely!
Check out Elmor's super cool utilities: elmorlabs.com/
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - INVESTIGATING
02:11 - GN’s 15 Year Anniversary!
03:23 - The Story So Far
05:58 - Hypotheses & Plans
08:52 - Test: Low-Resistance Shorts
10:56 - Test: Accelerated Aging & Failed OCP
16:28 - DAMNING & How to Fix
20:04 - DELIDDING Exploded CPUs
21:31 - MICROSCOPE
24:48 - Wendell’s Voltage Differential Theory
26:14 - ASUS’ Wildly Overvolted EXPO
29:10 - Gigabyte, ASRock, & MSI ft. Level1 Techs
30:44 - Expo Isn’t Guilty
31:39 - Conclusion & Tons of Other Bugs
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Host, Testing, Writing, Editing: Steve Burke
Testing, Research: Patrick Lathan
Video Editing, Camera: Vitalii Makhnovets
Guest support: Wendell of Level1 Techs (linked above), der8auer, Elmor, lots of people we can't name or who requested not to be named
All Comments (21)
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Gives ROG's slogan "For Those Who Dare" a completely new meaning.
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It's great to know that motherboards got 10x more expensive and yet they still lack protections (bugs asside)
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You did an insane amount of work to explain where those problems come from. I believe I say this for the whole pc enthusiast community - we really appreciate your work.
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As a retired EE, over the years have watch Gamers Nexus become an excellent quality, reliability test engineering business that I as a consumer really appreciate. I'm delighted to hear that your team really enjoys the diligent effort to provide qualitative and quantitative test results - and present in a manner that well communicated. Well done!
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"I think we see the smoke steve" and the random inserts of exploding gigabyte power supplies are some of the best tech memes.
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De8auer really made a whole contraption to desolder cpus when he could have just put it on an Asus motherboard
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Thanks! You and your team probably saved my week old 7800X3D. It was running 1.375 volts on the SOC (Asus ROG Strix X670E-F MOBO).
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This idea of buying failed hardware from people to check the issue is awesome! Outstanding job of you guys! Outstanding indeed!! Congratulations from Brazil!
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GN has long set the standard for PC journalism and we, as the community, really appreciate it! Thanks for bringing us this comprehensive diagnosis, been looking forward to this for awhile!
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Amazing turnaround on this - it's insane how fast you guys were able to investigate and replicate this. Even faster than with the 4090 12 pin issue
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Keep doing this important work, us consumers need you guys more then ever it seems! Big cudos to the entire team for doing continuesly excellent and informative content!
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Never seen a comment section with so many donations on youtube but its very well deserved. Been following for a few years now when the lab was barely starting
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This channel is perhaps the last of its kind for this kind for hardware journalism that keeps it super real and doesn't care about offending the industry, even as the industry tries to corrupt with either money or mob tactics.
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Thanks for keeping the community informed and taking the time to find the correct answers. Love you guys.
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This is unreal testing and a great commitment to quality and the greater community. Excellent work!
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I don't understand why companies like ASUS do not have a press statement ready along the lines of: "Sorry everyone there is obviously something wrong. We are investigating and will update you soon." That's all I want as a customer, open and clear communication. Not some bad move trying to hide their fault by retroactively editing the CPU support list. ASUS that's not how you get customers to trust your brand. I am curious to the excuses and future press releases that hopefully will reach us in the next few weeks. Cheers
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Let us all take a moment to remember the chips that heroically gave their lives for this investigation.
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This is sublime reporting & analysis work. Thanks to everyone at GN - as a 7800X3D and a ASUS X670 Strix E-A owner, thats just about ready to start building my new rig, these are invaluable insights to what is going on. I will keep an eye out for more of your updates on this matter, as with every video - you guys are awesome!
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Such an in depth analysis of the problem! 🤯 The amount of work you put into this is amazing!
