What is "Honesty" in Tekken (Let's define it...) | Tekken 8 Real Talk

How many Kazuya players have made it to finals in major Tekken tournaments? You think wavuing is easy with a cd mixup? Why is Kazuya the bottom when its win rate percentages? Keisuke is an amazing player. You complaining about Kazuya players doing mixups that, if blocked or ducked properly, are launch punishable. You kind of take away from Keisukes actual skill. Idk man. You do you.

Honest is not real, its js a term used by people who want to feel better about winning or losing with their main

That buff guy made an hour long video just to say, "My character is honest!"

As a Kazuya main I have disown some of the other Kazuya mains because not for one second have I ever thought the vortex was a fake mixup, nor had deluded myself into thinking it wasn't frustrating to deal with. His mixups are indeed frustrating, and if the Kaz is good, hard to deal with.

"Forensic detail" 👻 🤜🤛

“Just do this when they do that move” okay what happens when I just don’t do the move

Class is in session! 🤓📚✍️

This is a very well made breakdown. Thank you for it. I especially agree with your point that a lot of people in this game will tear down other people's characters due to their own insecurities. I used to do it a lot and I still do when I get really mad, but I enjoy this game so much more when I don't! Playing Tekken should be enjoyable and the community should be about having fun and being supportive, not about measuring dicks. Good on you for voicing your opinion on this, it's needed. However, one question: Are there things that maybe don't fall into the three main categories of mixups, knowledge checks and panic buttons? For example, Alisa's movement which allows her to negate spacing and footsies. It could be labelled dishonest, and to some degree it's a knowledge check and a panic button, but not entirely. Same thing would apply to Lili's boosted sidestep.

I like these type of videos I feel like I'm learning alot about Tekken culture.

I think part of the issue with discussing it is that for someone like me, I think cheesy, dishonest, broken, cheap, and carried, in my mind, are five pretty different and distinct things* whereas a lot of people conflate them to some extent. “This character can’t be dishonest because they’re not carried or broken,” for example, seems to be common, whereas to me they can easily be one but not the other. Personally I don’t mind when a character is dishonest by my definition when I don’t feel they’re carried or broken - imo Yoshimitsu is the perfect example. He’s a total trickster and has tools nobody else does so I don’t think he’s “honest” but being a trickster is basically his archetype and I respect the work and knowledge it takes to make his tools work effectively. Conversely I would say Paul is cheesy but not broken or dishonest, while Dragunov is kind of “all of the above”. *OP might be a better word than broken but imo both can be considered shorthand for “performs overly well at tournaments” and “cheesy” imo overlaps with “braindead”.

Hi! New subscriber here^^ First I guess it's good to know I'm already demonized for playing kazuya (i also play devil jin and reina to^^) Ngl i chose kazuya because back when I played a ton of Super Smash Brothers ultimate when he came out I had absolutely no exposure to Tekken before he became a DLC character for smash maybe it was that ridiculous laser move that he has. Tekken 8 is my first ever Tekken and your videos have been really helpful in assisting me in getting to understand the layout of the land of the Tekken community and sandbox! ( even though I've just now learned that apparently we are horrible people😅) joking aside this was a really helpful video and I look forward to seeing more of these discussion like videos! Ps: I'm absolutely dog shit at this game I'm just kind of here to mess around and shoot lasers

the only honest part about teeeken is random character select.

Love the content man, keep it up.

I appreciate the way you perceive the world including Tekken.

As a Zafina main I’m fully aware of my unique gimmicks and knowledge checks but since I came clean and I’m being honest about that she’s still honest 😂

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Yeah I think a lot of people are missing the point you're making. You can put in hundreds or even thousands of hrs being the best Cat Burglar in the world. It still doesn't make that line of work honest just because you've had to put in the time and the work to be really good at it. Kaz's line of work by the end of the day is to be a brutally efficient 50/50 monster 🤷🏿‍♂️

I played for honor from 2017 - 2023 I remember everything even after the ccu you can still react to everything.

As an Alisa main I know my character gives ppl cancer but I get on and play her anyway. I Have the time of my life too

My defence is at 87% and my highest stat . I play extremely defensive and offensive and I put a lot of thought into my gameplay - I main azucena and use every little detail from her character into my gameplay . Got to Fujin then retired rank . I’ve noticed recently I can play as defensive as I’d like but I don’t get the reward for defending my opponent. I’m getting chip damage , playing 50/50 constantly, and my brain is fried by the end of the match. Constantly doing 50/50s is SO tiring . Also Azucena can pull off long strings if you know the character and studied her moves ! She’s actually pretty good if you don’t play her like a scrub . What I dislike more now is people don’t choose a main they most gravitate to , it’s people choose a main depending on how overpowered they are . There’s zero versatility in gameplay anymore Hardly anything is punishable too, I literally need to be locked tf in to preform a punish FLAWLESSLY , same with kings grabs, I need super fast reflexes to break the throw and it’s almost impossible 😭. I also HATE HATE the low followed with a mid , I block the low, then my chin gets GRABBED and I get thrown into a blender. It’s a me issue but MAN it’s so so quick I can hardly even catch it , 5/10 I can defend the low high bullshit but when I get caught up in that I’m pissed