I Recreated the Lost Recipe for Greek Fire!

Published 2024-07-23
I'm on a quest to recreate the lost recipe of Greek Fire!
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All Comments (21)
  • Betterhelp rears it's head once again. Please stop their sponsorship
  • Quick tip from a chemistry student: please clean the ground glass joints in your distillation setup. Anything in the joints will probably cause leakage. You probably don't want that for your safety and yield. And for safety purposes please ventillate well during distillation or do it outside.
  • @jono3952
    The addition of pine tar was most likely to facilitate pumping and spraying. The U.S. Navy had the same thought among others when they were developing what we now know as Napalm. The name Napalm comes from Naphtha and Palm oil, which was their first successful recipe, before they moved on to a fully petroleum mix, which quickly became the standard. The reason it needs a thickener is that straight gasoline actually burns too quickly, and disperses in the air, resulting in a dramatic loss of potential and effective range when projected under pressure.
  • If you want to experiment further with fire bottles (molotov cocktails, essentially) I highly suggest you contact the guys from Ordnance Lab YouTube channel, so you can you do your research under their supervision, as they are officially certified by the ATF for doing such work. For example, each individual fire bottle needs to be officially registered as a Destructive Device with the ATF, to avoid the chance at a ten year stay in a federal prison. Not trying to piss on your parade. Just trying to keep you out of prison. Also, please drop Better Help as a channel sponsor. They are an extremely shady company, that not only offers terrible quality service, grossly under pays their therapists, but they also sell their clients' personal information to scummy data brokers for profit. I understand that you need to eat, but I really don't think you want your name associated with these people.
  • I remember reading somewhere that Greek Fire was preheated before battle, which might affect the results. Also, it seems to me that adding small bits of sodium, lithium, etc. to the mix might be a good way to ignite the mixture in water. Sodium is often stored in mineral oil, so it's safe-ish to transport. Then during a sea battle, as the oil spreads on water it seems plausible that the sodium would eventually touch the water and ignite.
  • @rishia8908
    Maybe this might help: Naphtha (refined crude oil, boiled to extract compounds that evaporate at lower temperatures just like what you did), quicklime (as a fine powder), calcium phosphide (produced by boiling crushed bones in urine in a sealed earthen or copper container), turpentine (extracted from pine resin), sulfur (as a fine powder), and niter (potassium nitrate). The working principle involves the reactive ingredients, calcium phosphide and calcium oxide (quicklime). The key question will be the proportions—whether the mixture should have a paste-like viscosity or be more oil-like. I think the solution will require testing and adjusting the oxidizer.
  • I wonder if the "burning on water" thing is aided in anyway by the presence of salt in the water? This stuff was used primarily at sea, not in fresh water locations.
  • Today in htme. While trying to crack the code on greek fire, we accidentally made a philosopher's stone and so have discovered immortality.
  • @timcoombe7880
    Now that's a clean-up I wouldn't want to have to do!
  • @mabeSc
    That fly got the buzz of his life, to death and back.
  • If you've already got pine resin, its a short jump to get turpentine, which is super flammable... and is basically just distilled from pine wood, easier to get then pine tar, possibly just mix it with the raw crude, you have the sticky icky, and the easily ignitable? a simple easy to replicate with Byzantine tech recipe. Maybe add some phosphate as a thickening agent?
  • @Solais1019
    My first question on this would be whether or not some of the later results were contaminated by not using a fresh pool with every single different test. Is it possible that some of the later tests did not ignite or may have interacted differently with the water because of the contamination of the crude oil and prior failed tests?
  • Phosphorous might make it behave how it seems to have been portrayed but that would upend history considerably if anyone could find evidence that they had indeed been using phosphorous.