Assassin's Creed Mirage | Is Basim The Hero or Villain?

Shay is more of an antihero, Basim is basically the "die a hero or live long enough to become a villain".

I enjoyed Basim’s heroic and idealistic side, with moments of charm and sadness too It kinda sucked knowing how he’d end up becoming

I don't blame Basim for wanting revenge on Odin but at the same time Eivor can't help that they're Odin. It's not like you get to choose who reincarnates into you. So for the ending of Valhalla I'd say he was more leaning towards a villian, but in the modern day and every other point in time he was an anti-hero.

I personally see him as heroic but kinda grey. Like a light grey, but his reasons for defying his mentor are understandable. It reminds me of Rogue where the protagonist felt like he was led by a lie or secrecy in a negative way that he turns against the Brotherhood as a result, although it’s more against the Brotherhood as a whole than one person in order to find one’s self. Ngl I kinda like how the voice was chosen for Roshann it’s not usually a voice you’d expect from a female character, even if the character is old. A raspy, somewhat androgynous and deep voice which can exist irl, but not often. I don’t care if it’s representation, I’m just glad it was chosen in a game in general.

He was a full on hero in Mirage up till his battle with Roshan. Helping kids on the street, disapproving of Ali's needless violence and always defending Roshan and showing gratitude whenever Nehal tries to talk smack of the Hidden Ones. The real question is wether or not he threw all of this away once his memories awoken, nobody truly knows what he is now

I would love a video deconstructing and exploring Basim as a character in both Mirage and Valhalla. I see so many people call him boring and I just can’t agree. The campfire scene from Valhalla hits so different after playing Mirage. It almost not retroactively feels like the old Basim is coming out instead of his post Loki personality.

The origin story of Basim in Mirage feels a bit like an anti-Alladin story, which is neat.

Bassim in Mirage kinda reminds me of Jin Sakai and Nihal somewhat reminds me of Yuna. Both Bassim and Jin served with eagerness and loyalty until Nihal and Yuna helped them see the hypocrisy in both the Assassin Brotherhood and the Samurai that both Roshan and Shimura refused to acknowledge because the Brotherhood and Samurai Code is all that Roshan and Shimura knew. That rigid dogmatic way of thinking ended up resulting in both Jin and Bassin embracing a darker more effective path even if that path differed from what they first idolised.

I think it's very unfair to compare Roshan to Al-Mualim just because of the third irony of the Creed. She was right in the end, and didn't want to control him. All of her actions were to help Basim let go of the past that hurt him, so the past wouldn't define him, the same thing Roshan went through. Roshan really loved Basim as a son, she didn't wish to lose him and Basim felt the same, his voice even breaks when he asks her to yield because he wishes her no harm despite everything. All that changes when Basim recovers his memories, Roshan doesn't even look him in the eye in the epilogue and he laughs as she walks off, he's not the hero anymore and Roshan couldn't save him.

Basim is my 5th favourite protagonist in the series which is saying something considering how many games there are, for me it goes Ezio, Altair, Edward, Bayek then the Basim

Basim is definitely a hero. He's more dedicated to the brotherhood to were he called them his family. And he can be caring and selfless. Loki is a anti-villian because he can be caring at times and he does have some love for the brotherhood but he's always known as a trickster and manipulator who seeks revenge on Odin and all those who did him wrong.

The william miles Valhalla scene alludes to Basim leading he brotherhood in the present day, him wearing a white hoodie and a hidden blade is also quite reminiscent of Desmond. He does state the creed is very important to him, and that the current assassins don't hold a candle to the ones in the old days. I just hope ubisoft doesnt mess this up. We need him as the modern day assassin, with an overarching story like Desmond.

I feel like Basim himself is good, but like Loki. Mischievous, but has his time to shine.

In honesty, I really like Basim's character. He's one of the more interesting characters to come out of AC in the past few games. Even the post-Valhalla Basim is kinda hard to classify as a straight villain. I really look forward to seeing where they take him.

Remember Subject 16's words to Desmond in AC Revelations. "What is a man but the sum of his memories?" The Bleeding Effect Desmond got from prolonged exposure to the Animus is actually an artificially-induced version of the "Sagefication" process that Sages like Basim and Aita's Sages went through. Remember that in AC Revelations, had Desmond not reached a synch nexus with Altair and Ezio, both Altair and Ezio's memories would've coalesced with his own, and would either produced an entirely new person (like what happened with Basim, Bartholomew Roberts, etc, etc), being a mix of Desmond, Altair, and Ezio. Or Desmond would've gone insane from three lifetimes' worth of memories in his brain and offed himself like most of the Subjects before him. Probably the more likely scenario, as he's not a reincarnation of the people whose memories are mixing with his own, unlike the Sages in AC. P.S. I would really love it if we keep playing as Basim in the modern day segment, and maybe even get some linear stealth missions with him like we did in AC3 with Desmond. Imagine if Basim in the modern day just straight up goes Sam Fisher on enemies, lmao.

I think that once Basim accepted Loki's memories and personality, he BECAME Loki. If he behaves like the previous being and keeps their memories, while the other being doesn't exist in any other way, what's to stop him from just calling himself that being, right. To me Basim is Loki and Loki is Basim and the only difference between them were the memories. I mean, Loki is literally in Basim's genetic code. Either way the question is whether Loki is considered a villain or a hero in the long term beyond this game. We know he is a schemer who betrayed Odin and helped bring war upon Asgard, all that to hide his son in there. And we know at the same time that it wasn't personal towards Odin and that he cherished him as a brother and a mentor. But Odin made it personal when he seeked out Fenrir and attempted to straight up kill him due to his paranoia and hatred towards outsiders. Loki wanted vengeance ever since, while at the same time he believed in justice and freedom like an assassin would. It is kinda part of his nature. He could have chosen differently once he started to remember, but he stayed with the order and kept fullfilling its will. He also still had respect for the other mentor besides Roshan, a man who was seemingly more resonable and respectful towards Basim and his insecurities. Even tho he mocked his "mentor" title. I really think that Loki will be an anti-hero in long term. And this was his origin.

He's anti hero

I really hope they release a DLC. Because when you finished the game you got a empty world. And I’m not finished with Bagdad! I want more gameplay

Mirage reminds me of AC2 in a way. You start as a young man and evolve into a well trained assassin. It’s similar to Ezio’s story in ac2. The voice changing also helps.

I definitely felt like basim was a hero at the beginning of the game, when he was eliminating targets, but by the end at the vault, that changed a little bit like you said in the video. I'm honestly curious, what would have happened if basim chose not to embrace and accept loki, like how eivor did with Odin at the end of the Valhalla base game. Of course in the update the last chapter from Valhalla that changes as well.