Digitized VHS samples captured with and without a TBC

5,290
0
Publicado 2023-01-23
Samples of analog videos captured with and without a time base corrector (TBC). Decide for yourself whether you need a TBC.

■ For the playback machine, I used the Mitsibishi HS-MD3000 SVHS VCR with built-in TBC, see my review here:    • Mitsubishi HS-MD3000 - a VHS VCR with...  
■ Pinnacle Dazzle family of analog-to-digital converters, my review:    • Which Pinnacle Dazzle?  
■ Diamond VC500 analog-to-digital converter, my review:    • Digitize VHS and Hi8 with the Diamond...  
■ How to digitize VHS, DV and Hi8 video and convert it for YouTube |    • Digitizing VHS is EASY! A STEP-BY-STE...  
■ AverMedia CE310B review and comparison to Dazzle DVC100, see here:    • AverMedia CE310B vs. Pinnacle Dazzle ...  

Chapters:
00:00 No TBC / DV
00:22 TBC ON / DV
00:55 TBC ON / AverMedia CE310B
01:29 No TBC / Dazzle DVC100
02:03 No TBC / AverMedia CE310B
02:38 No TBC / Diamond VC500

More info about TBC:    • Time Base Corrector (TBC) - what is i...  

#VHS #analog #digitization

Todos los comentarios (12)
  • @Abandoned-VHS
    I have 2 VCRs with TBC! One is a D-VHS player I found for 5 bucks and that made me commit to never owning a VCR without TBC again. I even have a medical grade VCR with such good TBC that it makes retail tapes look like an early DVD release. One day these machines will inevitably die, but I'm taking great care of them in hopes I can enjoy them for many years ♥
  • @nonsuch
    One of the best pieces you could own for video. Even if the source is perfect and the destination is high-end. It's worth its weight in gold.
  • @SkylerScott2007
    Oh No!!!! I got a subscribing screen button!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! THAT'S IT!!!! YOU ASK FOR IT!!!!! (JUMPSCARES AND HIS EXE FRIENDS SFX)
  • @xavierzander4201
    For most people a good working TBC is not affordable, due to high refurbish costs due to old age from these devices, most of them were also made for studio grade devices which also included the use of genlocks, consumer grade TBC's are not made anymore and rare because of that, my experience with a Panasonic combo are very good, the Diga "feature seems to be the cause, which is known under the name "VCR refresh" or "VHS refresh".
  • I kind of got a deal on my stuff but even if I didn’t it’s not a bad buy. What is gonna happen to the value of all of this? I think it’ll increase for at least the next five years. I bought a mavic pro five years ago for 2 grand and it’s worth 500 now. This VHS stuff actually holds its value for at least the next few years.
  • @mrjh637
    Wish I had a TBC, I got a S5911U and I know i definitely don't need a TBC(I have nothing worth preserving in that high of a quality) but I want one. Been wondering if a medical VCR could work as a cheaper alternative to a TBC then a possibly busted prosumer VCR.
  • @sweet_tooth
    Excellent tutorial. Informative and well-produced. I'm thinking of acquiring a 8mm camcorder with TBC to improve the quality of a video capture. Do you think that using a TBC will result in similar improvements for Video8 or HI8 recordings. BTW, I loved when the announcer that "wiggles like the devil". :-)
  • @ivok9846
    some thoughts: i would suggest invention of quartz crystal osciillator ameliorated the need for tbc most of the time. in both vcrs and capture cards. (because vcr is clocked by quartz (both ctrl and head drum servos) and capture cards are doing exactly the same thing as tbc, digitizing video is framed by sync pulses, but without the extra d/a conversion tbc does) but apparently system is not perfect in all cases: 5:23 that dazzle looks like flag waving one would get when tv was on "normal" channel and not on channel ment to be used with vcrs, for example channel 0 or so (sometimes a dot on tv display would indicate activation of that extra stabilisation), that had adiitional h.sync stabilization. that's poor design of input circuitry or peculiar adc. better to say bad one. gr93 is bad at picking up sync pulses from vcr. diamond device slants the whole image, i've never seen anything like that....ridiculous....probably costs few 100 dollars...heh... avermedia doesn't seem to need tbc, probably cx adc (succesor to famed bt848/878 device). same could be said for philips saa71xx adc: see two latest shorts on my channel: analog cap 4 (capturing utter crap, ep recording played back on old sp-only machine) analog cap 7 (capturing even crappier crap, white noise, extreme case) no blue screen like jvc camcorder, no flag waving like dazzle, and no slanted image like diamond.....and, offcourse, no tbc was employed. the need or no need for tbc can be evaluated quite easily: if your vcr and capture card combination doesn't produce problems (picture vertically rolling, straight vertical lines are completely non straight etc.) you don't need it and buying it is just wasting money. if it's rolling, there's cheaper option, just buy another vcr, not of same brand/model that's causing you problems. or even just manually adjust tracking on your existing machine, even if it has auto-tracking. or find old pc and put old pci capture card in it. that's dirt cheap today. cheaper than new capture cards of dubious quality, it seems. as this video suggests, tbc is also an extra a/d and d/a conversion that can't really do anything good for image clarity, so skipping it is better option, if you already have stable picture.
  • @mjlwm23
    I use X75 and DPS575 and datavideo TBC3000 and sometimes Turning off TBC is better I dont know why
  • @azv343
    One could take unstable poor quality half inch video tape and turn it into STABLE poor quality half inch videotape XD!!!!! looooool so mean