Life, Equality, and Choice: The Abortion Debate | Ann Furedi & Dr. Calum Miller

Published 2023-05-26
Get ready for a riveting episode of Unbelievable? part of our ongoing series Rights of Life and Death. Today in The Abortion Debate:  Life, Equality, and Choice, we're diving headfirst into the contentious and thought-provoking topic of abortion. What does it mean to say that life begins? What would it take for the fetus or the child to have a right to life, and for this to outweigh the mother’s right to choice?  How do we determine moral value? It's a debate that strikes at the very core of life, equality, and personal choice. Brace yourselves as we navigate the delicate balance between the rights of the child and the rights of the mother.

Joining us on this electrifying debate led by moderator Roger Bolton are two extraordinary guests. First, we have Ann Furedi, a leading global pro-choice advocate for almost 40 years,  who worked for 17 years as CEO of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service. She has written extensively on the ethics of abortion and was awarded an Honorary Doctorate in Social Sciences by the University of Kent.  Her groundbreaking book, 'The Moral Case for Abortion: A Defense of Reproductive Choice,' lays out the moral arguments empowering women to make decisions about their pregnancies. 

But that's not all. Presenting the Christian worldview and opposing abortion on demand is Dr. Calum Miller, an NHS doctor and an unwavering pro-life advocate. With a medical degree from the prestigious University of Oxford and a deep understanding of philosophy and biblical studies, Dr. Miller brings a unique insight into the intricacies of abortion policy in practice. He's here to challenge our assumptions and shed light on the moral value of the unborn.

In this high-voltage discussion, we'll explore the burning questions that lie at the heart of the abortion debate. When does life truly begin? Is there ever a justifiable reason to take another life? How do we assign moral value to the unborn? And are there conditions that would tip the scales in favour of granting the fetus a right to life that supersedes a mother's right to choice?

Hold on tight as we unpack the very definitions of 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' and their profound implications for the beginning of life, human equality, and personal autonomy. We won't shy away from the tough questions, including the role of women's choice and the intersection of abortion with women's equality. And for those wondering if men should have a voice in this conversation, we'll address that too.
Prepare for an exhilarating, thought-provoking, and mind-expanding discussion. Tune in to this week's episode of Unbelievable as we embark on a quest to unravel the intricate threads of the abortion debate. Don't miss out on this explosive episode.

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Ann Furedi's book is The Moral Case for Abortion: A Defence of Reproductive Choice www.amazon.co.uk/Moral-Case-Abortion-Defence-Repro…

Calum Miller an ethicist, philosopher and doctor has created a website calumsblog.com/ offering a weath of information on all the questions [calumsblog.com/abortion-qa/] and topics surrounding the sanctity of life. All his papers are here calumsblog.com/academic-papers/
 
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All Comments (21)
  • @philoshua
    This moderator interferes a lot more than Justin. He seemed to interrupt Ann a lot, unfortunately, instead of letting her express her points fully. Overall a good discussion - Ann and Calum would make a great podcast conversation with just the two of them, especially because they are friends who respect each other.
  • @irenekoh7806
    Is Justin Brierley no longer hosting the sessions? I miss his restrained ‘neutrality’. This moderator interrupts so frequently that the session is more like his own Q&A rather than a dialogue between the two invited guests.
  • You should have Lila Rose on the show. I appreciate her approach to the conversation.
  • Dr Miller is the foremost apologist for the right to life in this country. He's a national treasure.
  • @mnelisi
    Listened to this on a podcast. Had to see who the gentleman interrupting the guests was. Unbelievable is great because Justin would just steers the conversation between the guests rather than interrogating them. This, this chap shouldn’t host.
  • @blakegiunta
    The whole point of getting experts is having them interact, rather than the moderator interacting with them individually. I really dislike this set-up. You might as well do back to back shows with one guest and then the other.
  • @russell13904
    I enjoyed this, but l felt the critique of the pro-abortion position could have been stronger. The host probed about Furedi's support for abortion one day before the due date, but she wasn't asked about killing babies after they are born. Is she opposed to that? If so, on what grounds and why doesn't that also lead her to oppose abortion? Also, she wasn't really challenged on using language that smuggled in rhetoric, for example, that a women denied abortion is "forced to have a baby" (hmm, is the ban on infanticide also a form of forced parenthood??) or, referring to that the act of killing an unborn baby as "ending a pregnancy".
  • Sad that humans, who would not want to step over an ant, are debating this! 😢
  • @Sher7061
    She thinks that the mother should have more dominant rights ? She has had 20 years give or take to live, she is taking away from her own child the right to even be born. She speaks about the unborn in an abstract, it is her own flesh and blood, her baby. Does she think talking really slow makes her more intelligent ?
  • @chrishanson1631
    Interesting question. We can easily say that when it comes to abortion, the mother has the higher moral status and should be given preferance. Yet, everyone realizes when a firefighter has to choose one to save from a burning vehicle, that choice is innate. I think it is so innate that we know without stating it which one the fire fighter would choose.
  • @briendoyle4680
    Abortion IS a Right! A woman's Right to Vote - To Choose - To Decide ! WithOUT fascist interference!
  • @hwd7171
    Pregnancy is not a disease, abortion is not healthcare, unborn babies are not tumours.
  • @Cynthia-ru3do
    It is always wrong to intentionally take the life of an innocent human being. Babies in the womb are innocent human beings, and they deserve the right to life.
  • It is interesting that the podcast starts with Ruth Jackson speaking of getting Christians thinking, of rights of the unborn & women, when does life begin. Nothing about what God says in His word, the discussion s all about what we think.
  • @moosechuckle
    I really appreciate Dr. Miller’s approach. More and more I hear Christians relying less on the Biblical/spiritual argument against abortion and focusing on when life begins and the value our society places on life: specifically innocent life. That’s something I have always strived to do when it comes to abortion and it’s good to hear. I also appreciate how this entire discussion was respectful of both sides.
  • @timothygrayson
    The concept of abortion is detrimental to the understanding of the sanctity of life as a basis for a commandment. I'm a Christian who believes that placing selfish desire above a natural action is abhorrent. It is selfish to assume rights when clearly we have none outside of nature's law which govern and place restrictions on our lives. I can agree with contraception as prevention to pregnancy but abortion is ethically and morally evil and symbolises self worship and is idolatry. Emotionally much damage can be done to someone who accepts abortion as a career move. We are not equal and that is why we need ethics. A child has no concept of responsibility, adults can but refuse to accept a code of conduct and now we they worship themselves not God or nature we have lost compassion to self aggrandisement and the debate about moral efficacy of abortion is profound and viscous. It is murder through the back door to deprive life and breaks our obligation to humility and empathy to sacrifice and commitment to provide life and adhere to support the concept.
  • @ghostgoodall7484
    The more we understand the earlier we see humanity. At some point you should humble yourself and admit that the things we do not know. One would think the wise thing to do is to take a position of caution toward the being in question. You don't though, you choose you focus on another characteristic that we have noticed, consciousness. I see it as the height of hubris to think we have figured out consciousness or whether it even matters if we could. Do you remember wondering whether born infants could feel pain? Doctors in the 1980's remember wondering 🤔 but cutting anyway till they realized maybe just maybe they were wrong and maybe babies can feel pain. Oops. Anyway you tell me you know what consciousness is and how it truly can be known, detected, understood.
  • @littlechaq
    I can't take this seriously with such a biased moderator.