"I Wasn’t Sure If We Would Ever Be Friends Again" (Matt & Thomas Open Up)

Published 2023-10-05
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Hey everyone,

Thomas and I have worked through a lot behind the scenes, especially in the past six months.

It’s been really challenging, and at times our relationship was in serious jeopardy.

Thankfully, we’ve gotten through it.

In this podcast, we dive into all of it. Not just our relationship, but also how we see the world, advice for someone in their 20’s or 30’s, and reflections on our Yes Theory experience.

I’m very grateful this is real life. That my best friend and I get to do this.

Relationships take work, especially through big changes, and this one has been no different.

I hope you’ll get something out of this for your own life and for your ties with those closest to you.

Thank you for the support.

Sending you all love,

Matt

Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
1:25 Podcast begins, addressing the nerves
6:07 Thomas turning 30 & setting goals
17:14 Power of intention
27:35 Thomas’ first heartbreak & motivation it gave him
37:45 Change yourself = Change the world
41:40 Fear of things falling apart
47:58 The struggles of our relationship the past three years
50:30 Matt explains his gradual decision to leave
56:40 Filming our first video after 3 years
1:02:55 Thomas and Ammar’s perspective on Matt leaving
1:07:28 Reconnecting & evolving in our relationship
1:20:30 Dealing with fame
1:29:30 What Matt saw in Thomas from the beginning
1:31:19 Thomas’ reflections on the book

All Comments (21)
  • @YesTheory
    Thanks for this convo Matt and thanks for listening everyone ❤
  • @aidanwood7204
    You two are exactly the type of guys who should be hosting podcasts in todays day! As a 23 year old guy, I really really hope that more young men can find positive role models such as yourselves, who are comfortable talking to each other about your lives, your relationships, your feelings, etc. Pre-ordered the book and cannot wait to hear more of these pods :)
  • @FusionAdam
    There's a lot to take away from this, but one thing that stood out to me is they're both fantastic listeners. That level of true support is so enviable.
  • @rmyersperry1
    Matt, me being an introvert, I get it. I was so happy that COVID happened because things stopped, really STOPPED!!! The break I needed had FINALLY arrived. This is not to take anything away from those who lost their lives or those that are extroverts and need to be around people constantly but it was my saving grace.
  • One of the biggest mistakes that I made in my 20’s was to think that ‘tomorrow will be better’. The reality is that there is no guarantee that it will be. Now I deal with my uncomfortable crap as quickly as possible and get it behind me so that the odds are much better that I will be having good days ahead.
  • I guess I was confused. I thought Matt had stepped back to write his book and to be more behind the scenes instead. But I had not understood that he was totally leaving Yes Theory. Or that he and Thomas had not spoken for some time. Thomas and the Yes Theory team should know that you have created the very best content and channel on YouTube -- and you have created an incredible movement. Your impact for people around the globe has been so incredibly impactful and will last a lifetime. So sorry to hear that Thomas has had so much pain and stress. This is a lot of work on all of your shoulders. But you and your team represent greatness! Your content uplifts people like no other content channel can. Thank you Thomas and Ammar and Matt. I know you will miss Matt -- but you and Ammar have been blessed by some new members of your team to continue your inspiring work.
  • @BIGGER_RED
    I think the Seek Discomfort videos should dive more into the mental health side of things with Matt heading that part up. He analyses and breaks things down, I love it
  • @melonmilkice2755
    I understand what Matt feels. It's hard not to have a purpose. Like having too much freedom and space is just a perfect recipe for anxiety.
  • @austincoldiron
    So much respect for Thomas bringing this level of compassion and empathy to the friendship
  • @dyanneeee6
    Hearing Thomas talk about one of his biggest priorities being starting a family was actually so refreshing. I’m 29 and the dating scene is so focused on short term relationships and not many people seem intent on settling down (at least in the Netherlands it is). But I have the same desire, so I hope we will both find someone in our 30s ❤️ Also, as a teacher I LOVED hearing you talk about education. If ever you need anything, I’d be so down to help! I proudly use your videos in my classes in the hopes I can inspire my students, so I’d love to do something to pay it forward
  • i'm watching these guys after ages. thomas seems to have super grown and matured a lot, almost like he's the one taking leadership on. Matt seems a lot calmer and centered with himself
  • @amy-ca9104
    Been waiting for this since the day Matt announced about his going away party podcast 😍⚡️🤍
  • @oumaymarose
    This is the type of conversations that strikes a chord at a soul level. Genuine human connection. I'm glad there are role models like you out there who are willing to speak so openly about mental health and learning to process emotions and events. Thank you for this great conversation and for opening up so authentically about what you both lived through.
  • @irawhitlock1084
    I’m loving this podcast. Matt is like a missing piece of the YES puzzle. I’m an introverted dude with anxiety but also have an adventurous side so I can relate to you. Just take your time and just don’t over do it. I’m trying to learn that in my own life.
  • @mydogisbailey
    heartbreaking to hear thomas admit that their friendship basically ended until a few months ago. but happy that they are able to rebuild their relationship in a way that makes more sense for them at this stage in their lives ❤
  • @CAD2039
    As a person with chronic anxiety life became easier when the world slowed down. I think its okay to be grateful for that sudden change of pace, while also being sad for the cause of it.
  • @ZeldaVStheworld
    I'm 25 and still live in my hometown. I want to travel but I'm terrified. I want to move out of my parents' house but I'm terrified. I've had so many times where, without my family, I would be homeless. If I leave, only I can save me. I hate myself to have wasted so much time..
  • @anovosedlik
    I used to think that talking about your feelings was too indulgent. Then I went in to recovery and half way through, a young man came in. He was acting all gangster and I saw a lot of myself in his attitude. I sat down with him, and very assertively said 'look: let's take off these masks and actually be vulnerable'. A month later, he told me that that conversation changed his life. I told him it changed mine, too'. He left our retreat program and had the courage to tell his family about his daughter (they didn't know he had a child). Unfortunately, they weren't ready to be vulnerable, themselves. They didn't take it well. He ran out, and his body was found the next day in the woods. When I see men like Matt and Thomas be able to open up, it reminds me of my dear friend. And I hope that we can all be open and vulnerable with each other. Some people are more sensitive than others, but even if you aren't really sensitive, please try to be sensitive to those around you. Matt, you are amazing, and I'm so glad you are going through your own recovery.
  • @e1ectroniKa
    So awesome being able to have these types of chats. That's real friendship.