Destiny 2 - IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! Veil Containment Explained

Don't you just love it when the logs from Veil Containment and the current episodes brings everything together. The logs put together tell a story of Chioma's accounts on the Ishtar Collectives experiments and research on the Veil throughout the years they had landed on Neomuna and the eventual downfall of Maya Sundaresh and that of the Collective as time and research on the Veil progressed with Chioma growing older and worn out from one log to another. Chioma having to watch all of it unfold losing Maya to the Veil along with her colleagues. It eventually lead to Chioma at her old age finally giving herself to the Vex consumed and withered by her grief and depression. Chioma and Maya have since been lost in the Vex net until Maya eventually found herself and found her way back to reality through Echoes from the Traveler. Let's say our Guardian finally put this depressing tragedy of the Ishtar Collective to rest for good in the Final Act.

am I the only one who actually enjoyed tuning into the logs every week last year?

The close connection between Maya Sundaresh and the Brays is a touch revealing. WAS Maya present when Clovis finally uploaded his mind to that Big Exo Head? Is THAT where she got her idea to be the Conductor? Clovis wanted to be the sole Locus of Humanities future development, have himself elevated to a Godhead of sorts. Did Maya fall into a similar trap?

In that arena, under the veil, I love the obvious darkness subclass reference on the floor, I really hope we get that red subclass

shout out the guy in the fireteam shooting all the time lol

Savathuun has been playing the field but truly on the lights side but also understands the darkness, she’s just tricking everyone. She’s like the mothmommy nudging us in the right direction.

“But that’s just a theory…..A GAME theory! Thanks for watching” 😂

I just realized that SIVA was made from Vex technology that is so cool I thought humans made it themselves but this makes so much more sense

I firmly believe that Lakshmi wasn't necessarily 'killed' by the vex during Season of the Splicer but was uploaded to give Maya a blueprint for her new body as The Conductor. Still teabagged her corpse though.

Lakshmi, the goddess of fortune and prosperity in Hindu. Conductor promising an age of prosperity another Golden age.

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I feel like Chioma has to appear in act 3, or in the exotic mission. Perfect parallel to saint and osiris. Maya = osiris, even he notes it. And Chioma = saint interacting with vex to meet the one they love. Perhaps Chioma saves Maya and she gives up the echo

You gotta tell your homeboys to chill during the logs

Interesting detail on why the copy of her we met didn't mention anything, possibly didn't remember, she'd been reset. Question is how and why.

Voiceactor is sooo good!!!

Now makes we wonder if Lakshmi had a whole other ulterior motive letting the vex into the last city, or, she wasn’t controlled to do it. Like maybe she wasn’t killed, but her mind was just reacquired. Cause nobody was there at the moment of her demise, we just happened upon her body

"Maya was right about everythng...." So, did Maya have access to an OXTA Machine? Was she mind-forking and having predictive visions BEFORE they reached Neptune, And whar Cult was Chioma referring to? The Ishtar Collective or a nascent 'Future War Cult' before the Faction we know from the Last City and Lakshmi 2?

Vex is gonna be the new main race .

I played Lightfall for the first time after The Final Shape was released, and I couldn't shake one thought off. Whenever I see the Ishtar Collective logo, I keep thinking it's a Hive symbol at first. Then eventually, I think about Savathun. She is the one that hid Veil on Neptune, but is she also the one that somehow led Maya & Chioma there? Chioma's logs keep stating that Maya is not herself, and we know Savathun may disguise as or influence others. Then I think about the secret in the Starcrossed. Apparently, there's a secret room that could be accessed through a portal (or by going out of bounds), and at the center, there's an Ishtar Collective symbol, made by Vex. Starcrossed takes place in Black Garden, and the Vex we face there was from Sol Divisive faction. Why was there a Vex-made Ishtar Collective symbol there? Was it to signal that Lakshmi was present in their network? Or assuming Ishtar Collective is actually controlled by Savathun, was it to signal that it was a plan of her to keep Riven in check? Then there's Nezarec and Savathun. Ehh... this is getting out of hand. Just as this season is giving some answers on the subject of Veil (even though it's late), I hope we'll get some answers about Savathun, and how much of our Destiny she was involved in.

Clovis is watching this would be what he would do..