Fat Over Lean vs Slow Over Fast - Oil Painting Advice

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Published 2024-04-28
In this video I discuss the fat over lean rule and compare that to fast over slow rule in oil painting.

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All Comments (21)
  • @Foervraengd
    my classmate learned this the hard way when he was gonna varnish an painting - the painting only had a thin fast drying and diluted glaze on top of an acrylic base so it was pretty dry to the touch - he decided to use a water based varnish just to see if it would work and after he sprayed it on the cracks were forming right in front of his eyes as the varnish dried within minutes.
  • @lhills1729
    Thank you for your educational videos. I appreciate the lessons!
  • They ought to make some kind of test strip that one puts on the backside of the canvas on a completed painting that turns color when the painting is completely dried.
  • @user-pv8gs6gw9d
    I would have thought a little bit of cracking gives a an appearance of antiquity. I'm more likely wrong about this as I usually am. Love Mark's videos.
  • @StrictlyLogical
    If you think of it really you just don’t want a top layer to dry and “harden” first (become inflexible) while a bottom layer is still drying because localized relative tension in the still drying layer can push and pull and break the top layer. Better for a lower layer to harden first (becoming strongly fixed to layers below it) while the upper layer is still drying and doing its thing.
  • @jolakedra2998
    I love these short bits of information! Thank you ❤️
  • @Donate_Please
    I think the cracking in Sargeant's painting is from Ivory black or mars brown. That doesn't appear to be a chroma black. And the googles says he mixed burnt umber in his earth palette. Either way I'm not a fan of burnt umber. It just dries too fast on the palette. I like using mars black instead. A lot of the realist painters used pure blacks, zorn, bougourou, sargeant, repin..
  • @KoshNaranick
    do you have a list of oil paints the dry from slowest to fastest?
  • @hlpursley5377
    Thanks always great information you give us 👏🏻👏🏻
  • @Pax.Alotin
    Looking forward to you discussing the problem of 'Pentimento' --- ( also known as 'ghosting' ) - - where an earlier image comes through the newer painting or where strongly pigmented colors bleed into fresher paint layers -
  • With respects to Slow Over Fast ("Fat Over Lean"), I learned some interesting things with respects to Liquin and other Alkyd mediums: 1. When doing any painting, try to use only ONE medium within the entire painting. (so gesso, solvent, tube paint, medium, and varnish) 2. If you want to only use Liquin medium mixed with solvents and tube paint, add slightly more proportions of Liquin to the paint and solvent mixture with each new layer. Max should be about 30% Liquin to tube paint. If you reach this and have more layers still, then you have no choice but keep mixing 30% Liquin layer, and waiting for it to dry, then another layer, dry, etc until done. 3. If you want to use multiple mediums and ignore #1, you can use Liquin and another slower drying medium (ex. Stand Linseed Oil) so long as you follow the following general rules, it should be fine: - Gesso first, let dry - Acrylic paint, let dry - Solvent + tube paint, let dry - A little Solvent + tube paint + a little Liquin, let dry - Almost no solvent + tube paint + more Liquin, let dry - tube paint + more Liquin, let dry - tube paint + even more Liquin (max 30%), let dry - tube paint + a little solvent + Stand Linseed Oil (or any slower drying medium), let dry - tube paint + a little solvent + more Stand Linseed Oil, let dry - tube paint + More Stand Linseed Oil (max 50%), let dry Repeat until done, but don't use more thank 1:1 ratio of Linseed oil with tube paint. Final drying time is achieved when you use a "solvent" test with good results. A solvent test is done by applying a small amount of solvent or varnish on a cotton tip, placing it on an inconspicuous area on the painting, and gently rolling (not scrubbing) the q-tip around the painting a little. Look at the q-tip end. If it has no paint, it's sufficiently dry. If it does have paint, then you need to wait longer. Once fully dried, apply varnish to protect the painting, then you're done. The above is a general, proportion-free guideline to help you as a painter develop your own methods for oil painting in layers. Alternatively, you could get in to Alla Prima painting, which uses only one layer that you mix new paint colors in on canvas to get different colors and effects, but for multi-layer painting, the above is an amateur's suggested proportioning and approach.
  • @MsAvatar44
    Thank you Sir. Can you please do one how long a painting should take to complete; touching on returning to continue painting, and common tips to consider following this method.
  • @desotopete
    Did i see a while back that Geneva oil paint wad no longet in production?
  • @heidil7092
    I have been using straight Holbein Foundation white (lead) as a primer on linen and canvas panels. Takes quite awhile to dry before the panels are useable. Your thoughts on that? Thanks.