Ryzen 7000 Runs HOT but Does it even Matter?

This testing was extremely well done and well explained - great work! This makes me feel way more comfortable choosing a cooler that’ll be best for my build

Finally, someone trustful who actually tested gaming scenarios temps. Everyone is just rushing towards synthetic benchmark to hit the headroom of the CPU for their audience, but little did they know, most of their audience are gamers and are looking into gaming performance benchmark. Glad we got people at Hardware Canucks, who think outside the box. Who knew the 7000 series were running below 70c for gaming? Not me, well until now.

So Ryzen 7000 has made liquid cooling redundant, that is ironically cool.

This review I found much more informative and realistic than artificial stress testing. Cheers.

So basically I've been worrying about my 7700X hitting 95 degree with an 240mm AIO for nothing, thanks for the video! Makes me feel less stressed when I see the temps, haha!

What I'm waiting is to see the X3D version eventually, how the heat and clocks will be managed this time around. Should be interesting especially since they plan to release more models.

Dissapointing video. Basically apart from '95°C is new normal in reviewers/amd conclusion', this video said nothing, except that worst and best cooler is 200mhz at most apart. A gigantically better test would be either Eco mode OR limiting 85°C in bios (how much mhz and performance drop would that cause i'm thinking not much). It's certainly what i would do. You can disagree, but I cannot and will not ever accept a perma 95°C cpu temp. It creates a massive distrust that that cpu would last 8-10 years (what i did now with cpu and plan for next one).

Mike's cooler videos are imo the absolute best content Hardware Canucks makes. It really revitalised the channel.

Hi, thank you for the full explanation and greatly appreciated it. I tested the 7950x, yes it does stays 95 degrees but and clock frequency does depend on the cooler’s capabilities. But if you tweak in PBO2 by lowering the PPT by 1/2 which is 115w instead of 230w you can still hit the 5ghz mark with boost but with a lower temperature. I do agree with you if allow to, best is by getting the best cooler pc builders can get. Am running off a 420 aio which benefits the clock frequency and boost.

The "too hot" argument is just lack of understanding of thermodynamics and people who don't own laptops.

To keep my 7950x under control, I set a maximum thermal limit of 85 C and set the PBO curve optimizer to undervolt by 10 mA on all cores (I didn't test going any lower, but I could potentially save more power/heat that way). I'm getting the same scores in cinebench as stock, but it never gets over 85 C. It keeps the fans from lifting off like a jet too.

Thank you for going into the gaming bit. So many people think that when their cpu says 100 in game on an osd that it means the cpu is maxed out in every way. They also associate 100 usage to highest temp. This will go a long way to correct this issue with some.

I wish you had tested it with the power limitat set tl 105W or 65W. I've seen reviews saying there wasn't that big of a performance impact and thermals were a LOT tamer.

a lot of people dont understand there is a difference in heat output from a cpu between 95c 50watts and 95c at 100 watts

This was very interesting. I recently bought a 7700X and the Wraith Prism fan ramping up and down due to temp spiking was driving me nuts. I had an old Deeopcool Gammax 400 that I put a Noctua fan on as a temporary solution...temps and frequencies are about the same as as the Prism but much quieter. During typical gaming sessions the 7700X hovers around ~70C with the Gammax 400.

They did say the maximum possible temperature is 115c, though they set the Tjmax to 95c. So I guess 95c is the new 80c (for 100c max temp)

I have a noctua air cooler with three 140mm fans mounted in the top of my case blowing down on it and while I see temp spikes to 95C under heavy load, it immediately cools to under 50C the moment load is removed. Throttling until you hit your thermal cap is AMD's way of squeezing as much performance out of these things as possible.

The real answer: AMD pushed the chip so hard to the max, just to say "We beat Intel"

Amd basically says "IT'S NORMAL, 30% MORE THERMALS FOR 30% MORE PERFORMANCE IS FINE BECAUSE LAPTOPS GET THAT HOT"

yet when it reaches over 95 degrees, i get a warning on my pc that the cpu is over heating. At what degree do we know its ACTUALLY overheating ?