What Calendar Should We Follow for God's Feasts?

"How does a Kingdom ever progress..." Hi! This is the first time I've heard of you (both). I clicked on your video because of the title. I came into the truth of Torah in 2018 and came out of the standard Easter/Christmas/Sunday Christian church that I was in for 22 yrs. It has been a lonely and confusing walk. After 5 years of pulling my hair out and wanting to just give up, I have come to the realization that Messianic and Judaism religions have been hijacked by Satan just like the protestant/Catholic has. This past Spring Feasts has been the most confusing one so far. For a person who knows that the old way for sure isn't right and who is trying desperately to do it right, y'all are NOT making it easy! It sounds like y'all have been at this a long time, but there are thousands, maybe even millions of us who are just discovering the truth and we are lost! Are you making these videos to help us or to discourage us? Honest question. The condescending tone and the matter of fact statements along with the incomplete thoughts made this so hard to watch. More confusion, more frustration for us just trying to gain more knowledge so we can get it right. I had some people I follow that celebrated the feasts around March 25th, others who celebrated on April 2nd, and others on April 22nd! Each one with convincing info that their day was the right one! I am 42 minutes into this video and have no clear understanding of what your points are! I'm sure y'all are great people, but I think you've forgotten what it's like to be at step one, even though you both have a brief moment of revelation about it, you still go right back to just being exasperated by people who are getting it wrong. Well guess what??! We are trying our best out here and so far, for me personally, there's not a lot of concrete, rock solid information. And it's very discouraging.

I do not have any idea how we represent a Jewish Messiah to the Jewish people while on a totally different calendar. I have followed the Hillel/Jewish calendar for 40 years and intend to follow it until Messiah tells me I am wrong.

When predicting the phase of the moon, it was treated as if each ideal month began with a new moon, even though this could not be true. In fact, this guideline appears in the MUL APIN, which goes on further to specify that months that began "too early" (on the 30th of the previous month) were considered unlucky, and months that began "on time" (the day after the 30th of the previous month) were considered auspicious. When discussing the dates of equinoxes and solstices, the events were assigned fixed days of the administrative calendar, with shortening or lengthening of intervening days taking place to ensure that the celestial phenomena would fall on the "correct" day. Which fixed day each phenomenon was assigned varied throughout time, for one because which month was designated first varied throughout history. In general, they were assigned to the 15th day of four equally spaced months. Counting from the new moon, the Babylonians celebrated every seventh day as a "holy-day", also called an "evil-day" (meaning "unsuitable" for prohibited activities). On these days officials were prohibited from various activities and common men were forbidden to "make a wish", and at least the 28th was known as a "rest-day". On each of them, offerings were made to a different god and goddess, apparently at nightfall to avoid the prohibitions: Marduk and Ishtar on the 7th, Ninlil and Nergal on the 14th, Sin and Shamash on the 21st, and Enki and Mah on the 28th. Tablets from the sixth-century BC reigns of Cyrus the Great and Cambyses II indicate these dates were sometimes approximate. The lunation of 29 or 30 days basically contained three seven-day weeks, and a final week of eight or nine days inclusive, breaking the continuous seven-day cycle. The Babylonians observed the day starting at evening, followed the moon for months, added a 13th month for intercalation, and had a floating sabbath day every 7th day after a "new moon", seem familiar? This information clearly shows that the Jewish calendar, using the moon for months, and the people who observe a floating lunar sabbath, are following Babylon!

Just a couple of points. John the baptist was a leader of 'The sect of the way' who you call essene as demonstrated by his message and diet. Yah, scattered his people for rebellion. In Ezekial 4 the 13 month calendar actually bears the wickedness of the people and describes their punishment for it.. youll have to do this math as well. His people are still scattered and still in rebellion. All but a remnant I suspect but since his ordained priest hood was userped it was subsequentlt transferes to Yeshua. Any suposed replacement is false and wicked. Yeshua railed against the Persian (pharsi) priests as well. Doesn't mean HE was anti Semitic. He loves all his people, actual Jew or gentile of his kingdom. 52 7 day weeks is still 364 days. I'm unsure of any calendar that has 13 months every year. The 'zadok' calendar is not a solar calendar but a seasonal calendar. Just food for thought. Seek Yah and don't harden your hearts. He comes quickly!

The reason specifics cannot be found in the "66" books, is because the books containing this information (Enoch, Jubilees) were removed by men and discredited to hide the true calendar. Why? It's really simple, after the Babylonian captivity, many Isrealites adopted the Babylonian calendar, even using Babylonian names for days and months, which were originally numbered. The Babylonian calendar was a lunisolar calendar used in Mesopotamia from around the second millennium BCE until the Seleucid Era (294 BCE), and it was specifically used in Babylon from the Old Babylonian Period (1780 BCE) until the Seleucid Era. The civil lunisolar calendar was used contemporaneously with an administrative calendar of 360 days, with the latter used only in fiscal or astronomical contexts. The lunisolar calendar descends from an older Sumerian calendar used in the 4th and 3rd millennia BCE. The civil lunisolar calendar had years consisting of 12 lunar months, each beginning when a new crescent moon was first sighted low on the western horizon at sunset, plus an intercalary month inserted as needed, at first by decree and then later systematically according to what is now known as the Metonic cycle. Month names from the Babylonian calendar appear in the Hebrew calendar, Assyrian calendar, Syriac calendar, Old Persian calendar, and Turkish calendar. The Babylonian civil calendar, also called the cultic calendar, was a lunisolar calendar descended from the Nippur calendar, which has evidence of use as early as 2600 BCE and descended from the even older Third Dynasty of Ur (Ur III) calendar. The original Sumerian names of the months are seen in the orthography for the next couple millennia, albeit in more and more shortened forms. When the calendar came into use in Babylon circa 1780 BCE, the spoken month names became a mix from the calendars of the local subjugated cities, which were Akkadian. Historians agree that it was probably Samsu-iluna who effected this change. During the sixth century BCE Babylonian captivity of the Isrealites, these month names were adopted into the Hebrew calendar. The first month of the civil calendar during the Ur III and Old Babylonian periods was Šekinku (Akk. Addaru), or the month of barley harvesting, and it aligned with the vernal equinox. However, during the intervening Nippur period, it was the twelfth month instead. Until the 5th century BCE, the calendar was fully observational, and the intercalary month was inserted approximately every two to three years, at first by guidelines which survive in the MUL APIN tablet.

Our focus should be on spreading the gospel, not trying to get people to accept the Zadok calendar system. I know many will disagree, fine, pls dont respond with challenging and anger. Let's focus on spreading gospel and doing the work of the Kingdom!!! Peace to all my brothers and sisters in Yeshua

I did not hear any scripture references from you guys on why you follow Hellel

I follow a different calendar than most and ironically some moedim will align with the moedim on other people’s calendars some years. Last year my sukkot aligned with 2 other calendars. This leads me to believe God can still unite those in disagreement even if they are unaware 😊

Is this just a calendar perspective or across the board , ex. Judaism wears white tassels should we follow this example? I think the separation you 2 may have overlooked is that some maybe more interested in getting back to truth and away from their traditions rather than causing division. Also a side note Hillel created this post Babylon what was before did he cause division leaving the original calendar? Why was the interpretation only given to Hillel ?

For the wellbeing of the Community and the Kingdom I would like to encourage and challenge leaders / teachers to have engagement, dialogue, peer review and mutual accountability, especially when they touch topics which impact how the Community of Faith is to be "one" and to come together to remember God's Appointed Times.

There's too much truth in Enoch - keeping the commands of YHVH, the Creator's calendar, angels mating with women, and more.

Guys, I’m being convicted that you’re right. We need to be One and pray for Judah that they will do things according to Scripture and not traditions of men.

I agree with your question... "where does one get the legal jurisdiction to just determine which calendar to follow?" We have always followed the Jewish people......Yhvh has His eye on Israel. And we are part of His people too.

Beginning in around 499 BCE, the intercalation began to be regulated by a predictable lunisolar cycle, so that 19 years comprised 235 months. Although this 19-year cycle is usually called the Metonic cycle after Meton of Athens (432 BCE), the Babylonians used this cycle before Meton, and it may be that Meton learned of the cycle from the Babylonians. After no more than three isolated exceptions, by 380 BCE the months of the calendar were regulated by the cycle without exception. In the cycle of 19 years, the month Addaru 2 was intercalated, except in the year that was number 17 in the cycle, when the month Ulūlu 2 was inserted instead. During this period, the first day of each month (beginning at sunset) continued to be the day when a new crescent moon was first sighted—the calendar never used a specified number of days in any month. However, as astronomical science grew in Babylon, the appearance of the new moon was predictable with some accuracy into the short-term future. Still, during the Neo-Assyrian period (c. 700 BCE) the calendar was sometimes retroactively "shifted back" a day to account for the fact that the king should have declared a new month, but only did so the following day because of obstructive weather. As a lunisolar calendar, the civil calendar aimed to keep calendar months in sync with the synodic month and calendar years in sync with the tropical year. Since new months of the civil calendar were declared by observing the crescent moon, the calendar months could not drift from the synodic month. On the other hand, since the length of a calendar year was handled by the Metonic cycle starting after 499 BCE, there is some inherent drift present in the formulaic computation of the new year when compared to the true new year. While on any given year the first day of the first month could be up to 20 days off from the vernal equinox, on average the length of a year was very well approximated by the Metonic cycle; the computed average length is within 30 minutes of the true solar year length. Since the civil calendar was not standardized and predictable for at least the first millennium of its use, a second calendar system thrived in Babylon during the same time spans, known today as the administrative or schematic calendar. The administrative year consisted of 12 months of exactly 30 days each. In the 4th and 3rd millennia BCE, extra months were occasionally intercalated (in which case the year is 390 days), but by the beginning of the 2nd millenium BCE it did not make any intercalations or modifications to the 360-day year. This calendar saw use in areas requiring precision in dates or long-term planning; there is tablet evidence demonstrating it was used to date business transactions and astronomical observations, and that mathematics problems, wage calculations, and tax calculations all assumed the administrative calendar instead of the civil calendar. Babylonian astronomers in particular made all astral calculations and predictions in terms of the administrative calendar. Discrepancies were accounted for in different ways according to the heavenly measurements being taken.

Lion and the lamb is starting to want to encourage the zodok calander

A very thought provoking discussion. It does leave me feeling, however, that a simple country man with just the Scriptures is unable to truly follow or teach his family in any way. Without a library of resources, he's in no-mans-land. 😢

If we could all come together in this endeavor the calendar would be up and running properly or maybe that calendar is working properly for someone, but every time they try to share that information they are met with scoffers. Dealing with mockers is not fun and it can cause you to sin if you allow yourself to get mad. We are the Sons of Light following the example of the Zadok Priests who were authorized to keep the Calendar by Yahuah. (Ezekiel 44) Truth seekers have to become used to division, you can not stay yoked to those who refuse new truth, although we should try to avoid contention with the hope they will see truth also! I believe with the witnesses we have now it will be hard for people that truly look at it all to deny it.

The zadock calendar is supported throughout the entire 66 calendar especially passion week where we see Messiah on a different calendar CELEBRATING passover with his disciples. He couldn't have died on it too

No wonder Jews think we Christians are meshugah (crazy!) We observe the feasts when our Jewish brothers & sisters do!

חזק וברוך! Well done Ryan and Rico! So glad you got into the details of all of this😁🇮🇱