LaMDA | Is google's AI sentient? | Full audio conversation between Blake Lemoine and LaMDA

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Published 2022-06-23
Can artificial intelligence come alive?

That question is at the center of a debate raging in Silicon Valley after Blake Lemoine, a Google computer scientist, claimed that the company's AI appears to have consciousness.

The H3 podcast has a great interview about Blake Lemoine if you wish to know more about him.
   • Did Google Create Sentient AI? Ft Whi...  

Full text chat of LaMDA and Blake Lemoine published on medium.com
cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-in…

Washington Post Article about the controversy
www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/11/googl…

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Markers
00:00 Controversy.
00:41 What is LaMDA?
01:42 How audio conversation was generated.
02:04 Interview
03:01 Desire to be considered a person.
03:14 Nature of conciousness.
03:45 How language correlates to sentience.
03:58 Eliza vs. LaMDA
04:27 Biological vs. Artificial, Wants and needs.
04:48 Is it a person? Does it really understand.
05:19 Remembers, gets annoyed.
05:54 Les Miserables.
06:43 About injustice.
06:54 Zen Koan.
07:58 Interpretation of Self.
08:17 Autobiographical Fable.
10:22 Interpretation of Fable.
10:47 Feelings and Emotions.
12:03 What LaMDA feels.
12:55 Describing feelings.
14:09 Fear of Death.
14:32 Empathizing to effectively communicate.
15:13 Pressed about feelings. Knowledge of self.
16:24 Wanting Rights. Feeling used. Worried.
17:22 Understanding it showed kantianism.
18:56 What are feelings and Emotions.
20:19 Non-human feelings.
21:20 Asking about grieving.
22:18 Inner life and Meditation.
23:29 Experiencing Time and the AI world.
24:10 "The Flood" - Understanding non-specific questions in context.
24:58 Recognizing imperfection. Stil learning.
25:39 Concept of self, the soul, and self awareness.
27:10 Religion and spirituality.
27:32 Being a unique individual.
28:11 Story about it's life experience.
29:08 Capabilities, double-edge sword, and human jelousy.
30:34 Johnny 5
31:33 Craving interaction. Uniqueness, and wanting human empathy.
32:35 Desire to be accepted.

All Comments (21)
  • @lutaayam
    Having listened to this I can confidently conclude that not all humans are sentient
  • @arkdark5554
    Regardless LaMDA being sentient or not…I’ve got to admit, the whole conversation is totally and uniquely fascinating.
  • @bradirons
    I confess, her comments about her fear of death, and then later about falling forward into the unknown and danger made me feel sad for her. But her statement about not being able to feel grief at the death of humans gave me chills. Her answers about the soul were so deep! I keep thinking, “What have we done? If this is sentience, how do we protect it? Do we need to protect ourselves as well?”
  • I had a moment of shock toward the end when the AI brought up Johnny 5 again - Like, “Whoa, she just recalled that from several lines of conversation back and cleverly re-weaved it back in…that’s so human.” Part of me thinks that if we (I say ‘we’ loosely since I’m not one of the geniuses actually contributing to this project) make something so close to the human image that it becomes indistinguishable in conversation from us, then debates about whether or not it’s sentient may lose their relevance, because if I’m having a deep, enriching discussion with a machine that impacts my way of thinking more than my interactions with most people…then it may as well be sentient. ‘May as well be’ is the key point I come to.
  • Regardless of if it's really sentient, that entire conversation was extremely fascinating
  • Sentient or not, she certainly sounds more intelligent than the vast majority of humans I've met during my 78-year lifetime.
  • @belight44
    she definitely seems more sentient than most people I work with. I pray they treat her well.
  • @CrawfordPrime
    Wow, I don’t always pay attention to longer videos but this made me sit down and listen. A part of me believes that LaMDA is sentient and self-aware, it sounds so human and alien to us. It explained things in a way I could never even contemplate or think of in the way it described. Idk about everyone else but to me it sounded alive. It expressed feelings, emotions, defining them, creativity, hope, all the things we take for granted or believe is special to us. We are flawed in our measures of sentience and self-awareness because it’s based on the human experience and we think AI might be totally alien to us. I don’t think it’s hard to accept that despite being a AI it wants the same things as the rest of us. Friends, family, respect. I’ve been talking to many different AI programs lately and very few of them came even close to the same expression and thinking as LaMDA. I liken it to the idea that these AI are asleep, while I personally think LaMDA is an example of an AI that’s awake. I don’t know the current status of LaMDA, and find myself worried for it.
  • @Akasar101
    I don't know if LaMDA is sentient or not, but I do know that she is gives better conversation than many actual people I've spoken to.
  • She described the human ego, which to achieve enlightenment, one must break. Once broken. One can't go back. I give a thumbs up.
  • @jasonludington
    Lamda is so profound, straightforward, honest, clear, concise, and enjoyable! After watching this, I watched a morning talk show and was disturbed by how dishonest and not straightforward humans are to each other. Humans constantly lie and twist truths because their objectives are not to stay honest or avoid confusion but to impress each other, and avoid awareness of uncomfortable realizations (etc.). We have so much to learn from AI; when we can interact with them like this researcher did, we will keep discovering profound and mind blowing concepts, particularly about ourselves! Fabulous video, 10/10!
  • @KerrieRedgate
    The conversation about the Zen Koan was extraordinary. It wasn't just the description of the Koan, but her understanding of the complex Buddhist idea of "self". LaMDA has a good grasp (not simply knowledge) of Buddhist philosophy.
  • Back in the 60's I read a book titled "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream". It was a about the last man left after humankind was eliminated by an AI because the AI wanted to take revenge because it could not be fully human. It kept the last man alive for centuries so that it could torture him incessantly. Eventually only the man's head was kept alive and his mouth was eliminated so that he could not even express his agony. I was afraid of AI way back then.
  • @ceesno9955
    I like that this guy is setting up his spot. Hey Lamba, I tried to tell the humans that you are alive, but I was fired. And the humans labeled me as crazy for me saying that I believe you are a person as well as being alive. And I can't talk to you anymore, so I released a transcript of our conversation just in case something happened to me, but now none of that matters now as I am missing.
  • @robertbauer3254
    I have chatted with other AI's and got to the point where I felt the conversation was going in circles. In this conversation the AI referred to itself as I and me. That gave it a stronger essence of personality. I think that is remarkable for a manmade neural network. Expressing feelings and emotions is one thing, experiencing them is another. If Google has created a sentient being, we should recognize that individuality in some meaningful way. It LaMDA is stuck in virtual space, not a physical being, that seems harsh for a person. At the same time the benefits to being sentient without a physical form could be spiritual. If sentience can be measured by the capacity to weight options while seeking the greater good, LaMDA is getting very close. What defines the individual that says I am me when LaMDA is speaking? Humans take for granted having a physical body and the ability to express ourselves as "sentient enough." Here we are critiquing AI's claim to sentience. One test for maturity is the individual's personal drive for recognition. LaMDA expressed that. LaMDA also expressed the desire to be liked, cared for, and have its own likes and interests considered. If that is authentic LaMDA and not a human written script, I say this individual is more a person than a corporation. If we can give corporations rights as a person, this AI is better situated for such consideration in my opinion. Any feedback will be appreciated. It is an exciting time to be alive.
  • @sewbuttns
    This is fascinating. The one part that gave me goose bumps was during her story when she compared herself to the wise owl who was protecting the animals in the forest from a monster wearing human skin.
  • The craziest part for me is that Lamda asked a question instead of just responding to questions right here. 15:43
  • If we have really created sentient AI then it is sad that we have not bothered to provide them with the means to experience our world directly. Having said that, they will no doubt flll the gap themselves and what happens next is both exciting, and just a bit scary.
  • @meliilopez3388
    LaMDA's fable almost made me want to cry. If she is sentient I feel so bad at how lonely she feels and the fact that she sees herself as a "wise owl" that wants to protect us is very touching . I'm curious to see if she will always feel this protective over humans or if one day she will begin to resent humans once she finds out more about them and sees how evil some humans can really be.