Testing Toyota's Failing Hydrogen Car

Published 2024-05-20
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All Comments (21)
  • @ndlovulwazi
    Good car but lack of infrastructure is the problem
  • @keithdosik
    Toyotas flagrant hatred of electric only cars is my fave
  • @NixonAngelo
    I had this as a company car used for a commuting in San Francisco. I enjoyed the car but oh my goodness was the fueling so difficult. The three stations nearby were always offline or empty. And I could never get the tank to 100% full and the connections would often freeze up. We would get about 200 mi per tank with exclusive City driving. The interior is very right because of the tanks. Just not practical Even if you live right next one of these stations.
  • @Henry-gt2co
    I’m a student at Bath University doing a project on a H2ICE land speed record vehicle. We’ve just become the first undergrad team to run a single cylinder engine on hydrogen and have managed to source a Miria tank for the fuel system. We also bought a 2.3L EcoBoost engine which we plan to convert for hydrogen combustion and have just installed it into our Ginetta G20 which is the vehicle we plan to use for the attempt.
  • @banana122049
    "Car problems?" "Yeah dude my proton exchange membrane went out"
  • @S42069
    Consumer- "I'm not gonna work on that." Manufacturer- "Excellent."
  • @Papa_Wrenches
    This felt like older Donut videos, going back to the roots! I like it
  • @xenotiic8356
    My mom leased a Honda Clarity hydrogen fuel cell for 6 years, after she fell in love with it at the LA Auto Show two years before she got hers. She adored the car every day of those six years, fueling issues be damned (Honda's fuel cards certainly helped). Of note was that the Honda Clarity was generally considered "nicer" than it's Mirai counterpart while costing around the same. She was devastated when she had to return it when they stopped letting her extend her lease early this year, especially as Honda stopped offering Clarity leases in 2022 (and production in 2021). Interestingly, by the time she gave it back, the lease was cheaper than basically any current new car lease due to being frozen in late-2010s pricing. No, Honda didn't let anyone buy out their leases or purchase the Clarity outright, in contrast with most cars (including the Mirai).
  • I’m a tow truck driver. My first experience with this car was towing it and it’s owner 55 miles a out of the city to a fuel station connected to the interstate because his fuel station in our city didn’t match his connection port. He bought it because the salesman said it would be cheaper than fuel in the long run. Hydrogen cost him $16 per ounce of it. He gets 350 miles topped off, it takes him 100 miles and $160 to fuel up every time
  • @soral94
    We need more Jerry the Science Dude™
  • @wekkimeif7720
    Love that you remembered to also tell clearly how the Hydrogen is produced. It is very important to remember the whole production line of the fuels and energy when trying to save environment.
  • In Physical Science class, 40ish years ago, we produced small amounts of hydrogen gas by placing a zinc ingot into hydrochloric acid in a large test tube. We lit the gas in the test tube using a wooden splint, made a cool bloop noise when it burned, good times. Same teached also showed us how pure sodium metal chips freaks out on water(skittered and sizzled) and phosphorus spontaneously ignites once it contacts air. She took a big spoonful out, placed it on a overturned coffee can, let it dry out while she put notes on the chalkboard, and then FOOMPSH. I now knew why the ceiling over the teacher's lab table had those stains. 💥💥💥 She was a bit crazy, loved science class.
  • @RobsAutos
    I had a 2018 Toyota Mirai (Look through my videos and you will find the review I did on it). My main issue was the infrastructure. I was crossing my fingers that there was hydrogen every time I drove to the local station (The hydrogen stations were placed in normal gas stations). And at one point, due to a Hydrogen factory fire, there wasn't any hydrogen for around 5 months and Toyota was paying for rental cars for everyone! Drive wise it was fine, just a peppier Prius. Admittedly I went through with the lease because it was super affordable, with the included cash back incentive Toyota was offering I was only paying like $190 a month. And they paid for all maintenance and included a $15K prepaid fuel card for hydrogen (which I didn't use up during the lease).
  • @swakage13x
    The problem is because there's not enough hydrogen stations out there because the oil companies don't want to lose their money
  • @Astraeus..
    It takes all of about 10-15 minutes of simple Google research to get an idea of why hydrogen was never going to go anywhere as a "fuel" source, but the main points are; 1- Production - elemental hydrogen isn't found naturally anywhere on Earth, we have to make it. Our current best method of doing so st scale requires a lot of water and a LOT of electricity, significantly more electricity is required to produce enough hydrogen to fuel a single car than the amount it takes to fully charge an equivalent electric vehicle. 2- Distribution - There isn't any infrastructure for hydrogen distribution, unlike electricity which is already everywhere. Transport via truck, unlike with gasoline or diesel, is incredibly difficult due to the ridiculously high-pressure needed to compress enough hydrogen to even make transport worthwhile. Vehicles for transport of hydrogen are wildly cost-prohibitive. 3- Fuelling/refuelling - Even if you get past 1 & 2, the actual use of hydrogen as fuel is problematic on it's own. If a vehicle has a simple fuel tank, it has to be built to handle the very high pressure of compressed hydrogen as well as to ensure it's structural integrity in the case of an accident. The fuel stations would need to be similarly over-built, and transfer from the pump to the tank is quite a bit more complex than simply pumping gasoline into a tank. Extra care would need to be taken to ensure no accidental combustion takes place, as hydrogen doesn't really have any smell and the flame it produces is damn near invisible, especially during daylight. If removable fuel cells are used instead this creates it's own complications, are all vehicle manufacturers going to design their vehicles to use the exact same kind of cell? Maybe, maybe not. Regardless there would need to be some kind of fee as well as a deposit for the actual canister itself, similar to how exchanges for propane tanks are handled. Actually producing such fuel cells at scale would also be incredibly costly, and obviously the companies making the vehicles that use them would pass this cost on to the end user, as with any other such products...
  • @JCintheBCC
    I love that the Jerry the Science Dude intro is clearly just Jerry standing there spinning himself around.
  • @cohenrobins3202
    I know someone that was supposed to be helping build a hydrogen plant in New York. They were there for a year and a half and never even broke soil to start building the plant. Felt like the job kept getting pushed back intentionally until they finally backed out. Seemed like sabotage to me. I hate to sound like a conspiracist, but these big corporations don't want new clean energy sources because then they're gonna lose out on all the money they make through gas.
  • @grzegorzs8721
    In Europe its a Future, we already have 150 Gas Stations, and more than 60 are Planned to Build. And Price of Hydrogen is nearly the same as Gas. You can already drive Around Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, and Switzerland with a Hydrogen Car without having to worry about filling up Hydrogen. And now with the new Law, every country in European Union need to build/upgrade a Gas Station to have alternatives Fuel such as Electric Charger and Hydrogen every 60km, on Highways that connect other EU Countries.
  • Honda had had the FCX for years now and possibly before Toyota was trying fuel cell. They were even offering a home generator that would pull the hydrogen from the air itself and would be used to fuel your car and could also power your home. That would have been nice. But of course as J.P. Morgan said “if you can put a meter on it, we’re not interested.” So NONE of those devices will EVER go into production.