I switched to using a PC Handheld as my main Computer…

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PC handhelds are basically cheap, powerful laptops. So what would it be like to do some actual work on one for a whole week? How far can we push these things? And what would it be like to SUFFER through those UI issues...???

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All Comments (21)
  • @TankHamster123
    I have the ASUS ROG Ally and I have to admit, I use that as my main pc and even did my application for a Canadian work Visa. I was granted the visa and I find it hilarious that I managed to do something so official on a small gaming device with all the lights flashing!
  • @vonbrendt01
    My Steam Deck is actually my only computer. I use it every day for basic PC tasks. The desktop experience reminds me of using windows as a kid in the 90's. I haven't tried video editing but it seems to handle pretty much whatever I want to do with it. I don't know much about computers, but I am learning. The steam deck is my teacher.
  • @KuroZero
    5:43 You can also turn on the FPS mode switch while the controllers are connected to disable the built in controllers.
  • @huntertipton6197
    Been using the ally as my only computer since Black Friday. 100% works great and it’s not really noticed as a handheld when it’s docked
  • @COBRO56HD
    This shows their capabilities way more than I could ever explain it to someone. I don't wanna call gaming handhelds desktop replacements, even tho it can work, but rather laptop replacements. I love the portability. Gaming laptops may have a lot of horsepower, but they require way more power than something like the Legion Go, which I carry around a 10 foot USB C cable for, and a 30 dollar 65W brick. A dedicated charger for laptops, the laptop itself, peripherals for the device, etc. The Legion can technically be an all in one experience. And for 650 bucks it's a huge performance bang for your buck. I have a Desktop and the Legion Go, that to me is the best of both worlds. The Legion gets stuff done on the go with basically no fuss, and when I want to sit down and seriously game, I have my desktop. The fact that I can even get a roughly 50 maybe even 60% average gaming desktop experience for a portable 650 dollar juiced up tablet is remarkable
  • @arturotinajero11
    Lenovo Legion Go + 8BitDo Retro Keyboard + Logitech Lift Mouse as my only PC setup in work and in home. Absolutely no regrets.
  • @WyvernDotRed
    The problem with using both screens with the eGPU probably was the bandwidth needed to send the screen contents back to the iGPU over the limited USB4 interface. PCIe bottlenecks can ruin frame-pacing, as I have experienced by pairing an RX570 with my 3200G processor. Which I solved by upgrading to a Vega 64 and power-limiting it to as low as it goes, giving my brother said RX570.
  • @SwitchCat
    I use my Legion Go as my main when I travel for work, since I also carry my drawing tablet, which works as a second monitor. I pack my full Keyboard in my checked luggage either way, so it really is better for me than a larger device. (Especially in the Japanese hotels).
  • @ClintTheriault
    I've done this with my SteamDeck for about 2 weeks because my main PC (also using Linux) died. I used a USB-C dock and hooked it up to my two monitors. Other than games being slower, it was barely even noticeably different than my main PC. I was super impressed. I did run into a lot of issues with running out of RAM, but that was the only major negative. I didn't have to do any video editing during that time (I have a separate PC for that anyway), so I didn't have the same requirements that Wulff Den did, but I was able to manage pretty well. I think the major pain point for this experiment was down to completely switching his workflows. Mac OS vs Win 11, Laptop with multiple external screens vs 1-3 screens depending on the Lenovo's mood, etc. With my experience I was using the same OS, with the same keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.., that I always used. My settings and files were already mostly synced between the two, so it only took like 20 minutes to change everything over. It almost made me question why I even bothered building my main PC when 95% of what I do works perfectly well on a device like 1/5th the price.
  • @Sizzyl
    I've been using my Lenovo Legion Go as my main PC for around 1-2 months now and it's really interesting hearing the experience other people have had. Never messed around with an eGPU or anything, but that's mainly because I'm perfectly happy with 60 FPS (and pretty high rank in FPS games running 60 FPS). This thing is an editing BEAST compared to my old laptop which had a 3060 in it though, it's like 4-5x faster which has been an absolute godsend. I've been able to use this device perfectly fine for normal activity and while traveling with a $30 bluetooth keyboard with trackpad, a $30 USB-C dock that has like 2 USB slots for my headset and mouse, a wireless mouse (I have an expensive one but a cheaper one probably works fine), and the charger cable. I do also have a second monitor that's portable with its own power source, but it's technically not needed, I just love having 2 displays on the go. I throw it all in a $10 laptop bag and have been able to use it like a charm and overall still is cheaper than a laptop in the price range while being a portable 2-display setup with controllers attached. The multi-PC setup for streaming/recording you mentioned using might be worth looking into though, I've had so many issues with slightly corrupted video files from OBS (although still complete files that I've used in videos, they have a moment where they flash green or something) which all seem to be tied to how much processing power I'm using on the PC. It's really the only issue I've had using this device other than storage, but upgrading the storage to a 2TB 2230 SSD (if you're reading this, get a 2230 SSD w/ one of those $5 extenders, not the 2242 ones as they're very faulty hardware, was extremely easy.
  • @SumTr011
    Honestly, have been using my Lenovo Legion Go as my main laptop for about 4 months, and I have no regrets.
  • @holy_lettuce
    I have looked at the arcade cabinet more than Bob this video haha Tetris was satisfying to watch
  • @Spongegoose
    Windows has a lot of random processes that will cause the fans to ramp up. Example: On my Max 2, which has a pretty quiet fan overall will just ramp up because Windows start pushing an update in the background.
  • @Shotspoters
    Just a few points on how to fix some of the issues you were facing: In my experience, the performance gain on custom 30W compared to "Performance mode" (25W) is absolutely minimal, and the fan speeds are way more reasonable in that setting, resulting in way less noise. When doing less demanding tasks, like video calls, writing or media playback, switching to quiet or balanced mode also works great, again, reducing noise and saving battery if you aren't plugged in. The speakers are also tuned horribly by default, but aren't nearly as bad after turning off "Audio Enhancements" in the sound settings for the speakers specifically in Windows. Tuning them yourself with an EQ also helps a lot. In no way good still, but at least usable.
  • @plumshy5558
    I love Bob so much his reactions are so relatable lol, I click whatever video he uploads, for that reason alone.
  • Hey Bob, the irony is you seemed happy with it as a gaming device when that was the primary use case - the average user isn’t a professional video editor. There are many people who just want a gaming device that has a desktop mode for basic tasks.
  • your adverts with your doggo are criminally satisfying,i feel like i got a hit of crack blown in my face. ty for the insight without the life destroying addiction.
  • @Invid72
    I used my Legion Go as my primary computer when my main rig was down for an RMA. It worked fine driving two displays over a $100 CAD ($65 USD) TB dock. I even edited some 4K drone footage on it without any issues. For travel I use a folding bluetooth keyboard w/trackpad because the built in trackpad on the Go isn't good, as Bob noticed. Some tips: 1) When docked, just set the device to performance mode since you're plugged in anyway (Steam downloads are compressed and heavily use the CPU for decompression). 2) set a custom fan curve so the fan doesn't go crazy when it's not needed and you won't have to manually manage it either. It's really not a bad experience if you're docked and using an external monitor. The only real limitation is the size of the built in screen. Honestly, it seems like a lot of Bob's complaints were Windows issues with his workflow, not that he was using a handheld device.
  • @VicariousNickk
    TBH most of your criticisms were of Windows in general since you are clearly a MAC user lol I think most people who use Windows-based laptops/Desktop PC's on the regular for their work machines would do just fine switching to a handheld like the Legion GO as long as they wouldn't mind the performance loss.
  • @dryden_drawing
    I'm a university student and I've been using the seam deck with the default steam os as my main pc since september, and it's been perfect. Easier than building a desktop pc of the same power, and it was cheaper for me. If you're someone who wants to do work on the go I could see it being an issue, but I only ever need to do work at my desk. I've never had any issues with doing things while there's a download going, and I just watch YouTube on my phone when I'm eating in the kitchen. Having it docked, I'm at a good enough distance where the fan hasn't ever bothered me, but the most intensive thing I play is modded minecraft—which can get pretty intensive, just not as much as AAA games. I think the main issue throughout the video is that you're trying to use it as a laptop instead of a desktop computer. Video editing is the only thing that I can't really refute, but most people don't need to edit video, especially at 4k quality