Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie discuss Barbie's surprising feminism | 7.30

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It's one of the world's most recognisable toys and one of the more polarising by today's standards. Barbie is now the subject of a new movie produced and starring Margot Robbie and directed by Greta Gerwig with Ryan Gosling as Ken.

It's part homage, part comedy but with a strong feminist twist. 7.30’s Sarah Ferguson speaks Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie.

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All Comments (21)
  • @beargrub8932
    im so glad the interviewer recognized how awkward it was for them to be talking about greta as if she wasn’t sitting right next to them lol
  • @li3838
    I love that Margo is talking like a producer, strategily, clear, goal oriented and Greta is talking like a director, guide by instinct and creative. It allows you to see how big projects are always team work. It also shows what happens when you turn jealousy or envy into admiration. Both women are great but in their own unique way.
  • @Brian-bm7ew
    Approx. min 2:21. "Smart without making you feel stupid, funny without making you feel boring." Those are beautiful words to say about another person. Margot, you're so kind and graceful.
  • @dsgp7835
    As the only boy in a family of three sisters, I remember well them playing Barbie. Their monologues, whether playing by themselves or with friends were always joyful. They would play with them for hours on end. I married a gal who Barbie also played a huge part in her life. The youngest of four, two of them boys who were sport stars, Barbie payed attention to her when no one else would while her brothers dominated the family dynamics. At sixty four years old now, my wife is very stylish and would be quick to credit Barbie for that. We have a fourtie year old daughter who also loved Barbie. She though, was more into weird Barbie, she's an artist and Barbie was an early canvas. There was a lot of clothing and physical modifications to Barbie from her. I'm sixty nine years old and Barbie has always been in my life through the woman in my life. I can't wait to see this movie. Thank you Margot and the brilliant Greta Gerwig.
  • @Siansonea
    It always floors me when people seem to think that Barbie isn't inherently feminist. In 1959, Mattel created "Barbie, Teen-Age Fashion Model". From the very beginning, she was a young woman who had a job. And she had several more jobs before she ever got a boyfriend. Feminism and femininity aren't mutually exclusive. You can be feminist in high heels and Birkenstocks. I'm a lifelong Barbie fan and collector, and to me Barbie's most salient feature was always her kindness. In Barbie's world, you are accepted and embraced, and it was always clear to me that she loved her female friends more than her boyfriend, considering how much she hung out with them as opposed to just being with Ken. In 1968, when "Barbie talk" was going all around, it was her friends Christie and Stacey that Barbie talked to, Ken wasn't even in the picture at all until 1969, when P.J. and Julia also joined in the talking fun. Malibu Barbie certainly invited Ken to the beach in 1971, but it wasn't a romantic outing. Her little sister Skipper was there, as was her cousin Francie and her two besties, Christie and P.J. When Barbie became a SuperStar in 1977, Christie was right there with her, but Ken didn't join their group until the following year. Very seldom was it just Barbie and Ken as a duo. In 1983, when Barbie and Ken went on their Dream Date, P.J. still managed to tag along. So yeah, it's easy to see that Ken might feel marginalized, but it's always seemed quite clear to me that Barbie's world has always had a message of women supporting women.
  • @jupiter9974
    This was so interesting to watch I never knew that Margot was the one that pitched it and was so hands-on in the process of developing the film from pre to post and also the fact that they had to “defend” it to mattel
  • @ashpenny27
    This interviewer is so good at not making this just like any other “two women together interview” thing that we see 99% of the time. Also them together makes it just a great interview. Smart, direct, easily explaining what they are conveying. Greta saying how Margot just went in and asked what she wanted. I think I’m half projecting because I want / need to be like that. But I think also we don’t see this kind of interview with a woman or multiple women. I cannot wait to see this and already want them to direct/ produce another project together again. They flow off of each other so well. I love this!!
  • Finally an interview not asking Margot her favorite song or something. So good to see them get to talk about the film in a serious way.
  • @itsallaboutaz
    One of the best interviews i've seen about this movie, genuinely interesting and asking thought provoking questions, rather than the same click bait questions they've been asked at every junket. What a great interviewer!
  • @blackforest825
    The two of them are so great together. Also, Margot Robbie as a producer is killing it. I, Tonya, Promising Young Woman, Barbie... Now, that's a woman who cares for art.
  • @villain205
    This movie is the tragedy of Ken: He discovered a better world where he was valued. With that world knowledge he returned and he and his brothers defeated the tyrannical oppressors. The oppressors deceived Ken and his brothers, put them under heavier shackles and called it liberation. Remember men this film depict feminism in his true form "Oppression".
  • @BogushCh
    Fancy making "a feminist film" based on Barbie. They really should have kept Ken out of it. I don't give a damn about a such incompetent speaker as Greta Gerwig, but it does disturb me that Margo Robbie - who expresses herself incomparably more competently, has rushed down a rabbit hole with no way out for her future status as a s-e-r-i-o-u-s actress-artist.
  • One of the best interviews about this film! All the rest focus on the feet shot. This really dug into the genesis of the film and the ideas behind the creation. Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig are a power duo. I hope they create more together!
  • @beenwk4194
    Seeing people from all across the world recognise Sarah Ferguson is really heartening, Sarah is probably one of the best and most successful journalists in the world right now and is a national treasure for Australia.
  • 1. Margot Robbie has been paid $12.5 million for her lead part in Gerwig’s movie. 2. The workers on the Barbie doll assembly line are paid $2 an hour. 3. Therefore, to earn Margot’s money, each worker would have to work 6,250,000 hours. 4. Given their 12-hour shifts six days a week, this amounts to 1,669 years of utterly tedious and repetitive labor.
  • @ashpenny27
    If I hadn’t seen or known anything at all about this movie while watching this, I would immediately go and see it. They are so great together. I already need another Margot/ Greta produced/ directed/ written project and I haven’t seen this one yet. I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT either THIS INTERVIEW or MARGOT/ GRETA TOGETHER SPEAKING THE WAY THEY ARE. (Not being cut off or asked surface level no thought questions) IDK THERE IS SO MUCH. I CANNOT TELL NOW. BUT I LOVE THIS.
  • I love how this comment section isn't comparing them. I think Margot and Greta are both warm, talented, likable, intelligent, and lovely in their own ways.
  • @dgillies5420
    Wow I had no idea that Margot quarterbacked the whole movie, the production, the hiring of the writer(s), everything. It was in Limbo for 11 years before Margot took control and made it happen in 3.
  • I wish they conducted interviews with world leaders and politicians in this manner.