Part Three: John Wayne: A Dude Who Sucked | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

Published 2023-11-24
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Part Three: John Wayne: A Dude Who Sucked | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

Robert is joined by Francesca Fiorentini for the final part our three part series on John Wayne.

Original Air Date: May 3, 2022

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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

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All Comments (21)
  • Fun fact you guys didn't mention but all the extras to play the background mongolians for the Ghengis khan movie were local Navaho. Meaning the one movie John Wayne was in that didn't have Native Americans in because it's in Mongolia, is the time they got actual Native Americans in the movie.
  • @Countraccoonula
    John Wayne created a new lexicon. "myrhhnameiswilliamwayne“ translates to" Good morning and thank you for attending my lecture. As you can see I am drunk. "
  • @Advent3546
    Listening to those drunk speech clips does make me want to see a PragerU video featuring a visibly drunk out of his mind John Wayne.
  • My father was a Pacific War vet. He never referred to McArthur as anything but "Dugout Doug" in a voice of complete contempt
  • @XschultzieX
    John Wayne belongs in the Alcoholics Hall of Fame. Those speech clips are golden. 😂
  • I think the coolest, non-toxic "action" male character from the 80s was Tom Selleck's Magnum PI. The whole show was predicated on him being a good, honest, and thoughtful guy who genuinely cared for people. He'd rather crack a joke than a head, but was willing to fight when it was necessary. I think he's one of the most under-rated characters
  • I still can't get over the whole "was well over 6 feet tall and still wore lifts" thing. Like... the shakingly fragile barely formed ego you'd have to have to be that kind of person. To be short and wearing lifts because of unfair social attitudes about height is one thing but to be tall and wearing them too, there's no words, like c'mon
  • @theturkeychild
    lol at how depicting a man as "magnetic to women but always pushing them away" used to be a signifier of him being ultra hetero but now reads as quite gay.
  • @THEHAR0LD
    Thank god for Blazing Saddles. You couldn't make that these days, because Mel Brooks would sue you.
  • @deyeaus
    Suggestion for a christmas non bastard: Mr T
  • About Chris Kattan: Kattan broke his neck during a Saturday Night Live sketch and his career (obviously) suffered.
  • The Special Air Service and Special Boat Service, both spec ops units that exist to this day were founded in WW2, they operated similar to what we now understand as spec ops, infiltrating, sabotaging. They even had some of the first silenced weapons. The Fallschirmjäger were more like any other paratrooper units, they are usually better trained and get better gear cause they need to survive getting thrown out of a plane behind enemy lines in often completely foreign countries. Paratroopers are often seen as high morale and high loyality units by militaries and often get new stuff first, but then in return will also get send into the meat grinder.
  • He's just so god damned drunk if I didn't know how his first movie role went I'd be surprised he was allowed outside.
  • @donferoce5652
    Can't forget Charles Bronson as an iconic 1960s-70s action hero, from "The Great Escape " and "The Dirty Dozen" to the "Death Wish" movies.
  • @11myricka
    I always make playlists and separate these long shows with shorts about little history things and I accidentally put a bunch of stuff about Mongolia in between all of these episodes lmao
  • @pjbrown4736
    The comic book writer Garth Ennis used the ghost of John Wayne's cowboy persona as a Jiminy Cricket figure for protagonist Jesse Custer, who's a better person than the real life John Wayne. In a letters column one issue, a fan pointed out how horrible the real John Wayne was, and surprisingly, Ennis did not disagree or shout down at the fan. Ennis has a love of War movies and Westerns, but he also never shied away from exposing the brutality of either setting when he did comics on those period pieces.
  • @MrJohndoakes
    1:08 One of the people who died from the radioactive sand of "The Conqueror" (1956) was Pedro Armendáriz, who had a long career beforehand in Westerns. He was sick as a dog working on the set of "From Russia with Love" (1963), his last film, which he only worked on for the money. He literally had a gun smuggled into his hospital room to put himself out of his misery. I bring this up because the decisions made on one bad John Wayne movie affected 90 people from the cast and crew of 220.
  • @pjbrown4736
    "Why is it that the greatest champions of the white race always turn out to be the worst examples of it?"-- Jesse Custer, Preacher #46
  • @mrhammett7508
    Regarding the end of the podcast where you mentioned The Mandalorian; most of the time the guy under the Mandalorian’s armour is John Wayne’s grandson.
  • @TheDarthbinky
    Fun fact: Sacheen Littlefeather was a female Iron Eyes Cody. She was actually a Mexican-American woman from Salinas, CA named Maria Cruz with no actual tribal affiliation. It came up because Littlefeather/Cruz died in late 2022, and 2023 was the 50th anniversary of her appearance at the Oscars. So a reporter talked to her family and asked about what tribe she was affiliated with and her family was like "uh, what are you talking about? Our family's from Mexico." Granted... she probably did have native ancestry due to her Mexican heritage but if memory serves, she claimed to be Cherokee, which she apparently totally made up. Also the Fallschirmjäger weren't really special forces... they were just paratroopers, that is, regular soldiers who got extra training on how to jump out of an airplane and then do behind the lines stuff. What made the FJ different is that they were technically part of the air force instead of the army, and Hitler's #2 guy was in charge of the air force, so the FJ always had the best equipment available. Anyway... all of the major countries in WW2 had paratroopers. Germany did indeed have some special forces units though, notably Otto Skorzeny's Waffen-SS guys who rescued Mussolini from prison in 1943. However the British were arguably the ones who really made heavy use of special forces during WW2, and the American green berets were inspired by the British commandos (to include that that's where the "green beret" came from).