How Hades Was Made and Why its Early Concept Didn’t Work

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So that's why Theseus is so salty : he got out-MCed by Zag !

My favourite part of this deep dive is how you were able to mention "They wanted the characters NAKED AND HOT" but with the amount of depth and nuance they actually reasoned it out for the story

The fact that they REMADE their entire engine in native c boggles my mind. That level of dedication, let alone knowledge is unheard of these days

I study ancient Greek literature, and one concept always at the center of debate is that of καλοζ και αγαθοζ, or "beautiful and virtuous". Basically, in ancient Greece, it was common to describe someone virtuous as beautiful, and someone with unpleasant characteristics (such as being of a lower political status, lol) as ugly. So yeah, the gods and heroes were beautiful because thy were gods and heroes, and that was portrayed perfectly in Hades. Also, there is an event where Dyonisus, for a joke, tells Zagreus to convince Orpheus that the two gods are the same, thus providing an explanation on the confusion in literature between the two gods.

I really like how you change your editing style based on the style of the game you're covering, and it always looks great!

You look at Hades and you think "teams and teams of countless individuals". And then you show how much creative genius comes from only a couple dozen people. I loved watching this, Glen. Thank you! :)

Imo, Supergiant made their Magnum Opus with Hades, I feel like now the team has Hades as a sort of goal to the level of greatness they want their games to be, and they learned so much while making it that whenever they decide to make their next game it's gonna be equally ambitious and gorgeous.

Glen: "This game could not exist without Gen Z" Me: "Yeah that makes sense, an arcade style rogue like is almost like a complete circle back to millenial- oh wait, he's saying a name..."

This game should have won game of the year in 2020, but alas it was tough competition. I could not imagine the game featuring Theseus for the whole thing, makes sense they couldn't get it to work. Good video as always my man, keep up the good work.

Honestly, I think the fact that Hades is also a rogue-like made it much easier to replay it every time there's a new update so it didn't really got old which is why early access worked so well.

This information makes the Theseus and Asterius boss fight so much better.

the person in charge of adding diversity to the greek gods was called jen zee. perfection

"Their next project will be looked at closely with great anticipation..." HADES 2 BABY LET'S GOOOOO!!

I hope Supergiant can manage the success of Hades and the big expectations for the second game to make something even greater than Hades 1. I cannot wait to dive into Melinoe's story and be a part of the community development process for Hades 2.

Crosscode just recently finished everything it wanted to do in almost 10 years, and being crowdfunded and supported by fans I'm sure it counts as an indie game!

One of your best ones yet! Hades was such a thrilling game to follow through early access and the art style is just out of this world. I couldn't wait to share this video with my friends!~

I've run into Greg Kasavin at various game developer events here in San Francisco a decade or so ago when Transitor was just released. Really cool guy. I also remember talking with him about his time at Gamespot in the early years as a journalist and he was always very knowledgeable about what makes a game good on a granular level. Not surprising he eventually pivoted to working as a game developer. It's hard to explain, but Supergiant games(especially Transitor) really capture the Bay Area/SF vibe. Maybe it's the music or the look of them. Doublefine also has this. Sort of a laid back humorous vibe, but still challenging.

Whenever you die in Hades, you probably zigged when you should have Zagged.

Honestly, I’ve been so afraid to play a rogue like. I didn’t know Hades was one till I downloaded it, but I have to say, this is the perfect one for me. It’s interesting every time. And although dying was frustrating at first, once I realized it wasn’t impeding the story and that you were meant to die a lot, I started to have more fun with my runs. Hades might be becoming one of my favorite games if I’m honest