Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is A Soulless Game

Forgot to mention the lack of suit powers and the reduced amount of gadgets compared to the first game. There’s a great game somewhere in there but it’s muddied by the laziness of the developers. Still fun but not as good as it could’ve been 😕

I swear I got frustrated with Peter being nerfed just to make Miles better. Plus I hated that Scream boss fight I couldn’t stand it and that’s making me pretty hesitant on playing the game again when NG+ inevitably drops.

2:45 this transition is perfect

Man peters getz killed by Kraven😂😂 his knife is in Peter's stomach but Peter's spider sense never activates...thats just lame AF writing

I was so disappointed in the story of this game...my community tab over the last month is any indication of that of that and I didn't even expamd on HALF the points you made😭...BUT...at this point I'm just burnt on talking about it how bad it was any further So I'll say I agree with most of your points. I didn't even think about that Norman thing...yh your right it is dumb. And Norman seemed so one note in this game and had nothing else to add to the story I have NO faith at all in the narrative of the 3rd game. The set ups dont even remotely edcite me especially the Silk one...they couldn't even balance Miles and Peter's stories properly...now we got a THIRD spider person with an Origin more complicated than both Peter and Miles...and they're making her Miles' age🙄😐

while i was playing the main story i was having a great time until i started going for the platinum. i agree that the majority of side missions were repetitive and the fact that features like changing the time of day and new game plus is gone sucks ass too. the longer it's been after i played it the more i'm noticing these flaws and it's pretty disappointing

22hrs in I already had the Platinum….I must say during gameplay it was really fun bit as soon as all side and main quests are done, there is literally nothing more to do but

I do agree with most what you said and I thought the writing will better than the first game and easily one of the best spider-man stories ever told. I’m extremely disappointed as a diehard spidey fan.

After 2 of these games I find it really off-putting how much the logic of the world bends over backwards to make MJ a girlboss. The fact that Norman saw Spider-Man and MJ holding hands at the end and didn't realize the obvious is a symptom of that. Insomniac insists on treating MJ as an equal superhero and refuses to think about it more deeply. Actively engaging in such mental gymnastics is why they failed to consider something that simple.

Although I wouldn't agree that the game is soulless (other than Cleatus Cassidy lmao gottem), I agree with a lot of your points. Especially the difficulty and the side missions. Based on the title and thumbnail, I clicked on this video thinking it was just going to be an angry rant, but I was pleasantly surprised how fair you were being and how well you put your points across. Good video!

After about a month since I bought Spider-Man 2, I can say with certainty that story kinda sucks balls. There were a lot of super awesome stuff but the venom/symbiote story felt pretty rushed and my boy Peter got nerfed so hard 😭 boss fights and gameplay were still fun. 8/10 game honestly

A lot of great points. I would also like to add how extremely disappointing Venom was to me. I was not one of those toxic fans who immediately rejected the idea of no Eddie Brock as Venom, but I do think that they were right in the end. Now that I've played the game I can say that making Harry the host for Venom was just an attempt to water down the character. They ignored everything that made Venom's characterization so terrifying and unique with his personal hatred towards Spider-Man and replaced it with some generic world domination crap or "heal the world" as they put it.

The game was definetley mid, the black suit arc was cut short and completely ruined after the peter boss fight, and the seemingly "completely in line with symbiotes destroying everything" kind of make this venom feel like a dumbed down carnage and not this awesome conflicted character that he is in the comics. I love the black suit and venom and it hasn't been done justice on screen almost ever.

Instead of hiring competent writers they hired Sweet Baby Inc to increase their ESG score 😂

I mostly agree with you, and I'm so frustrated. I really wanted them to make a game as good as the first one. I can be cool with most of your point, but their is 2 points I will never forgive them, the way they handled Peter to show him as weaker than Miles pissed me off. The story centered on Harry as Venom and his relationship with Peter, why they thought it was a good idea to nerf Peter in that context in beyond writing logic. I want to highlight a point, the problem is not Miles himself, it's how they treated the passing of torch, unnatural at best, forced and cringe at worst. The fact that it's not even Peter who saved the day at the end is so... And the worst part, the tease Osborn and Doc Ock to be the next villains and at the same time officially announce that Miles is now the main Spider-Man... Miles arc is pretty good, they managed to give him a good parallel story to Peter/Harry with Martin Li. My complain about him is of course that he is too strong and capable compared to Peter who was nerfed in every way possible so... not very balanced. I guess the "be greater. together" goes in fact only one why, and franckly I'm sure the next games will not improve on that. With a possible Spider-Woman with Cindy, Peter don't have a chance to shine again, if Insomniac don't change direction and writing team. I like what they did with Kraven and Harry, why only complaint is that we don't see them very often and they deserved more space. Harry is a great choice for Venom, even if like you said the story become predictable, I still like the idea and what they showed, mostly. Norman is not as clever as he is supposed to be. The fact that he ask Otto for help is unbelievably stupid. The problem with MJ is her new mode. It don't make sense that she is so OP but it's... acceptable, just from a gameplay perspective. Not from a story one, but f... it. I agree with you about the side quest they are boring a most the time I forced myself to do them, except for the old man and Howard, two short but touching moments. A general problem is that the writing of the dialogues of the game lack impact. The Miles Morales game already wasn't as good as the first one, but 2 is a big downgrade. We love Spider-Man for the Shakespearian stories and tragedies, but Spider-Man is also very funny and punchy, so give him charm.

Forgot to mention the lack of boss fights and the fact that the one and only "human woman" boss fight that we have is quite literally the toughest one to go through even when you're in the symbiote suit. It's actually very ridiculous how hard wraith was in the game. I got beat by her like seven times.

Bro, I played my FIRST playthrough on SPECTACULAR difficulty. And I did not lose ONCE in any boss fight. To be fair I grinded the side missions(Thus Upgrade Tree) befroe I finished the story but still

I said it from the moment miles was revealed to be a character in 2018, miles was going to put peter on the bench and he would be the main spiderman. And I wouldn't have that much of a problem if miles was interesting and unique but the writers are super eager to have him take the spotlight.

My thoughts exactly, the story felt shallow, the gameplay didn't mix too well, and the villains where poorly written. It has some nice features, I like the symbiote suit, but the game was mediocre at best and boring at worst. Insomniac has been missing quite a bit lately lol

They had a large map, all they had to improve was the gameplay but they wasted resources focusing on things that did not enhance the experience and just made the open world needlessly large. This game is 25hrs long at best and offer no replay value but it cost $354 million which is 3 times the first game. It's dissapointing.