Why Is Fallout 3 So Hated? (And Why Is New Vegas So Loved?)

Fallout 3 was my first FO game and it has a special place in my heart for that, but I do feel Bethesda learned all the wrong lessons from it going forward.

if anyone is wondering, that is Tale of Two Wasteland, which is a mod that mixes Fallout 3 and Fallout NV in one game, allowing to play fallout 3 with NV mods and creating a kind of Story that connects both games giving the idea of that The Lone Wanderer is also The Courier

My biggest problem with Fallout 3 is that quests and npc's often feel isolated from each other. When New Vegas was being made, the interconnectivity of factions, npc interactions, and quests was core to the design philosophy.

False❌ : New Vegas is better because [3 hour rant about the quests] True✅: New Vegas is better because it has ironsights and Raul Tejada

Fallout 3's story I believe was going to be a lot more complex with the ability to choose between the Brotherhood and the Enclave and between two subfactions a conservative and a progressive element in each. You can see it with both the Outcasts and the civil war in the Enclave between Eden and Autumn but for one reason or another it was cut and patched together into what we ended up with.

Fallout 3 and fallout 4 are like father and Son

Just finished a 100% completion re-play of Fallout 3. Loved it almost as much as when I was a kid. Much of that game holds up.

In my opinion Bethesdas rpg entries lack what Obsidian did which is give the player character choices around scenarios within the story that allow for a lot more freedom from a narrative perspective. Besthesdas strengths are world design, lore, art style and lastly combat. I play Skyrim a lot more than fallout 3 or 4 because it feels like that is the best example of the things Bethesda is great at.

OP, the primary issue that many people have of Fallout 3 is the fact that it lacks innovations or changes relative to the geographical region its set in and abuses the otherwise “mascots” of the franchise (i.e. Super Mutants, Deathclaws, Brotherhood of Steel) while maintaining a kind of artistic stagnancy that doesn’t give leeway to creativity; that still persists in FO4 and 76. There’s nothing wrong with people arguing for consistency in lore; anachronistic changes bother people more than you think. You cannot dismiss them as purists when it’s been demonstrated that a failure for a writer to keep up with existing canon is grounds for lack of innovation or redundancy.

"Without Fallout 3, there wouldn't be New Vegas, and there wouldn't be as many fans to this franchise" and "Em*l P*gliwhatever shouldn't be allowed within a 10 mile radius of the next Fallout game's plot and main quest" are two statements that can and should co-exist

As a New Vegas fan I don’t hate fallout 3 I love it. But from a person who only plays the vanilla games. Every time I play fallout 3 I just realize all the things you can’t do in fallout 3 that you could do in New Vegas.

We all know the true Fallout is Brotherhood of Steel. Interplay co-signed on it so the classic fans cannot say otherwise😂

As someone who is new to RPG's and hasn't played New Vegas yet, I thought Fallout 3 was fantastic. And I think it's important to note that a good thing will seem worse by comparison when compared to a great thing even though the good thing is still good.

F3 and FNV are the 2 games that I played the most on my 360. Both 3 and FNV are great games, and they have a weird effect on me where if I play one, I have to play the other afterwards. Still play them to this day.

Fallout 3 is pretty good in my personal opinion. My favorite thing about fallout 3 is every single location, even unmarked locations, tend to have useful things. Putting books in each location that each raise one of your skills 2 points with the perk? Its brilliant. It makes all exploration meaningful, makes all exploration go towards building your character. Not to mention the game is super atmospheric and the location of dc is super interesting. (While were on the subject the bobbleheads and radio towers were also great ideas. And schematics too? Unique weapons? Theres so much reason to get out there. Also magazines in fallout 4 are brilliant but i wish they gavr you more powerful/more interesting buffs)

I'm glad people still debate over Fallout 3 and Vegas, it means that despite flaws they're still relevant and I wouldn't have it any other way. Any time I look up the F3 menu theme I get a dopamine overload and every memory from 2008 floods back all at once. I can see a huge swathe of the fallout community that do that same thing and that's why it's gonna stay in memory for years to come.

As someone who would more align with the opposing side on this argument, I have to say I really think this is a great video because it really clearly describes your view in a way much different from creators who have done videos on the same issue. I must commend you for not resulting to petty nagging with little constructive critique like other creators have, too. I think other creators should take note; this is how you make a video on an argument.

Your FO3 setup looks clean as hell man. Can you link your modlist?

i like all the fallout games except 76. fallout 3 was my first one and i played through it 36 times with all the dlc (yes i counted) i even played the entire game and all its dlc in one sitting for an entire day when i was a kid, so i might be biased when i get upset at other fans who say fallout 3 is objectively bad.

Fallout 3 feels like a fallout themed DC theme park. The brotherhood of steel is somehow in DC while in California they've been reduced to a group hiding in fear of the enclave theyve become so small, to then them fighting a war with the NCR. Whered they get the resources to get all the way to DC? New strain of FEV, Enclave is supposed to be dead and gone, dlc for a less frustrating ending. They even tried to make a dollar store Master with President Eden. Its fallout 1 but watereddown and in DC. The only thing new about Fallout 3 was its location and side quests which are very fun. Its not a bad game at all, but they could have done something new. 4 and 76 have the same problem. Let the brotherhood of steel die already!