INTENSE ARGUMENT between ATC and Instructor in Florida!

That was absolutely unacceptable from both parties. No matter who is right or wrong, talk it on the ground.

The most intelligent communication in this whole clip is the third party aircraft saying "we're just finishing our popcorn". Seriously though, this is ridiculous

I feel sorry for the poor student spending hard earned money witnessing unprofessional behavior from both parties. In addition, the other aircraft in the pattern were left without control from the tower, very unsafe, VFR notwithstanding.

I've been flight instructing for over 36 years, what an embarrassment to the profession.

“Full stop stop taxi back due to uhhh…… due to you” 💀💀💀 I spit out my drink🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"You're always so defensive" So, this is a recurring problem, and this person is an instructor?

“Finishing our popcorn” What a legend 🤣‼️

Hey all, I was the CFI who made a complaint about this guy. The video didn't catch this part but just before we did parallel base turns on 10L (us) and 10R (him). I was a 700 hour instructor at the time and his student, in my opinion, wasn't making a timely turn to final so I went direct the numbers. I wasn't mad and made a cursory comment of "Tower I'm not upset just please advise these guys to keep it a little tighter". Fortunately for me in the video he didn't recognize my voice because I just kept quiet and ATC called out the wrong tail number to advise of the "counter- complaint". In the interest of anonymity, I didn't correct them. But being myself I couldn't help but make the popcorn comment because this guy has a reputation around the airport for acting in the way he does. Just felt like I'd complete the story 1 year later. At 1100 hours I still admit when I don't know something or if I'm wrong or if my power off 180 was sloppy. Accountability makes us all better when we objectively observe our mistakes.

I fly out of an airport in NC and I’m friends with one of our tower controllers who used to be a controller at this airport. He told me yesterday that one time he assigned this instructor a certain runway. The guy refused saying he needed a different runway for operational limitations. It was supposedly because winds were too strong (they were at 4 knots). Anyway, the controller couldn’t give it to him because of either some survey or banner work near that side of the airport. The instructor kept arguing and my friend kicked him out of the airspace. The instructor then declared an emergency so he could get the runway he wanted. And my friend said this wasn’t the only incident that guy had. Sounds like he needs his license revoked 🤷🏻‍♂️

ATTENTION student in this plane: You need to drop this instructor 1- this level of belligerence is unacceptable 2- while he’s arguing, he’s not giving full attention to his primary job (instructing/taking your money) 3- Last and most important, he is likely a danger to himself and everyone else. This kind of attitude gives me reason to believe any slight against him could be met with retaliation, in the plane or not.

This instructor is setting an awful example to his student. You DO NOT HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ON FREQUENCY. The distraction creates a safety issue. I hope the FAA investigates this and implements some corrective actions. This cannot happen. I am irate with this pilot. That's an example of how not to resolve conflict.

It is a serious sin in my book to tie up an active frequency like this. I remember back in the late 90s attempting to get into an airport in Georgia with an active control tower. I had just been handed off from Tracon to the Tower and was seconds from declaring a missed approach and a go-around because the tower controller was doing this exact same thing. I had NO landing clearance. Every time I attempted to contact the tower when I released my PTT I could hear I was being spoken over! This kind of childlike bullshit has NO place in aviation! If you as a pilot don't like the actions or words of a controller, land and contact that ATC facility THEN! I remember speaking to a tower supervisor in the staircase in the control tower at the Ashville NC airport. One of the controllers violated clear set out procedures and I filed a complaint with the FAA over that jackass. STILL, I did it on the ground and did not tie up a vital communications channel!

It is frightening that we are sharing the sky with this pilot, and it is even scarier that he is instructing other pilots.

Someone is going to have an accident while the two of you are arguing, this is nonsense.

I feel sorry for that poor student 😂

"Full stop, taxi back due to...due to you." LOL hahahaha

That "due to you" was brutal

This instructor should have his license pulled. He’s arrogant and dangerous. Should not be teaching anyone.

That instructor needs a reality check. Why argue over such petty crap. Bad example to set for student as well.

3:30 "we're just finishing our popcorn" 🤣🤣