The Black Stone | ASOIAF Theory

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Published 2023-02-01
The black oily stone is an oddity that has mystified a song of ice and fire readers for years. In this video, we will build a theory surrounding its origins and possible purpose. We will discuss the Deep Ones, the Old Gods, and many of the Lovecraft references hidden in the game of thrones...

🎥 Chapters:
Intro: 0:00 - 0:46
The Black Stone: 0:47 - 3:38
Maester Theories: 3:39 - 5:20
The Deep Ones & Thousand Islanders: 5:21 - 8:45
Yeen, the Mazemakers, the Five Forts, & the Toad Idol: 8:46 - 12:39
The Aquatic Idols: 12:40 - 13:15
HP Lovecraft: 13:16 - 14:47
Robert E. Howard and the Black Stone: 14:48 - 15:52
George RR Martin Influences: 15:53 - 16:40
Cthulhu: 16:41 - 18:14
Old Gods Theories: 18:15 - 18:55
The World Before: 18:56 - 20:45
Conclusion on the Black Stone: 20:46 - 22:22
Outro: 22:23 - 23:09

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📕 Chapters Referenced
A Clash of Kings - Bran IV

📕 Other References
The Call of Cthulhu - HP Lovecraft

🎨 Artwork
The Black Stone - Thomas Wievegg
Seastone Chair - Matt Brown
René Aigner - Asshai by the Shadow
Yeen - Enrique Murguia
Toad Stone - Martin H. Matthes
Base of the Hightower - Ted Nasmith
The priests of the Blind God among the mazes of Lorath - Jordi Gonzales Escamill
Five Forts – Martin H. Matthes
Moat Cailin - Francois Coppolani
The Great Zimbabwe - Unknown
Innsmouth Creator - Unknown
Deep Ones - Unknown
Deep One Rising - ahapasi (Deviant Art)
Lovecraftian Toad God - digitaltoadphotos (Deviant Art)
Ryleh - Richard Benning
A woman of the Thousand Islands - René Aigner
Great Wyk, largest of the isles - Juan Carlos Barquet for Fantasy Flight Games
Seastone Throne - ArtStation (Unknown Artist)
The Wall - Marc Simonetti

Music
🔈 Gravity Sound - "Portal" Mysterious Space Background Music No Copyright

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All Comments (21)
  • @jserrano51
    If I remember well, when Ser Davos speaks to Lord Godric Borrell he notice he's hands are webbed, like the squishers Nimble Dick describes to Brienne. I wonder if the squishers will play some kind of role in the battles to come or if just world building. Maybe the squishers are the aquatic version of The Others. Maybe some horrible truth will be revealed. Maybe not.
  • @loooongneck
    I always thought there were two different types of black stone: the oily greasy one (seastone chair, toad isle, etc) and what is referred to as fused black stone (Hightower base, Valyrian dragon roads, the five forts, etc). The distinction is important, the oily black stone is the one of deep ones origin and the fused stone is made via fire sorcery or dragonfire
  • The five forts are made of fused black stone, not oily black stone. Fused black stone is evidence of dragons, and dragon riders in Yi ti, as the stone is fused together in dragon fire. This type of stone is found in dragonstone and the five forts and is not the same oily black stone found at the base of the high tower and at Ashaii
  • @jlworrad8555
    The first time I read of the oily black stone I instantly thought ‘hmm, that’s how someone from an era of medieval technology would describe the texture of plastic’. I’m not saying that’s what it is. Just putting it out there.
  • @marumae
    @18:36 "What if prophecies are the dreams of sleeping gods?" Chills here with this line. Great job! I love when Martin goes full blow fantasy and horror.
  • @Bigaphid
    The description of maester Theron's work sounds like how I would describe Lovecrafts' writing.
  • @rickyhunt4075
    "We believe it must relate to some ancient race or species that pre-dated human civilization, though probably not the children of the forest. And our suspicion is that they have something to do with the origins of Valyria. But is all that relevant to the present ASoIaF story? Perhaps only in a very indirect way, through Melisandre of Asshai" - Elio and Linda I think you're right about the stone being made by an ancient civilization but I don't think we were ever get an answer. I believe it is something George will never reveal or expand upon just one of the mysteries of asoiaf he said won't be answered. The same way we will likely never see Sothoyros or anything like that. Great vid
  • For those who don't know, Martin long ago said this was a fantasy story, not scifi story. Its not a post scifi civilization, or post-apocalyptic civilization. Just had to put it out there, since I've read more than a few comments that seem to think this is advanced tech, not magic.
  • Something most theories don’t take into account, or at least don’t give a good enough explanation in my mind is, the difference between “fused” black stone, and “oily” black stone. Example being the Seastone chair is oily, while the Five Forts are fused, or at least not described as oily. Some say it’s from the Great Empire of the Dawn, and the oily stone is associated with the Bloodstone Emperor, but I’ve never understood how some were transformed and others weren’t. Still a good breakdown, but figured I’d add to the mystery as well.
  • I agree with what you say, and there are many stories all over Westeros of aquatic beeings mixing with humans, and aquatic religious practices. I do think the fused stone is something else, though. It is made with dragonfire and magic. And yes, the Hightower and the Five Forts are older than Valyria, and their ornaments are different. It fits with the legend that the Valyrians learned the art of dragonriding from a people of the east. I think the Greate Empire of The Dawn had dragonriders.
  • @Slop_Dogg
    the thousand islanders have a mystical salad dressing that can extinguish dragon fire
  • @LemonFlump
    I personally subscribe to the theory that the oily black stone that seems to suck in light is very old, petrified shade of the evening tree. It’s said that weirwood trees when they petrify turn to an alabaster white stone. I think something similar is happening to the shade of the evening wood. There is another mention to something that seems to suck in light besides the stone, im pretty sure dani walks past some of these trees when visiting the warlocks and mentions that exact phrasing.
  • @daveid9271
    What do you think about the fishman hybrid theories going around? Some say Biter and other characters we see are half squisher. Although unlikely I think it'd be interesting if Patchface was a changling. (He's pudgy, pale, cold to the touch. He's never actually identified as the slave boy brought back overseas, he's only assumed to be, because of his patchface markings.)
  • @tulkas42o22
    I think a lot of these references are to give homage to lovecraft as many authors due just to give a wink to each other. Like your videos, to me it's making a lot of sense👍
  • I always thought the black stone to be an asteroid debris leftover from impact which started the long night, so the worshippers of darkness started using that stone considering it god-sent from their god. But your theory makes so much more sense, it has completely overruled mine. As much as this scares me, I also love it.
  • Love the video and glad to see you posting again!! I hope, but doubt, we learn what the black oily stone is from😭
  • I like your take! The Black Stone and Deep Ones, etc being mentioned in the background - which goes to show how much more is going on in the world, and it's not the main focus.
  • Thank you for bringing this to our attention! This was a super interesting bit of in world knowledge! Told very well, with some amazing theories... definitely loved it keep up the great work
  • These parts of the ancient history of A Song of Ice and Fire are the parts that I like most. Cool video