Why Rose's Bankai is WAY STRONGER Than You Think - The MUSICAL BANKAI, Explored | TYBW

I know I'm a Rose fan but...his Bankai, Kinshara Butōdan, is pretty badass. How strong do you think his Bankai really is? How many characters could he defeat...if he didn't tell them the secret to overcoming it? Let me know your thoughts!

the only bankai that can be defeated by going "lalalala i cant hear you"

Imagine if a mute Soul reaper had that Bankai and couldnt tell his enemy how it worked, Top Tier

I love Roses secretly sadistic nature. It's a shame he wasn't more central to the plot in any way. I would've loved to see this side of him more. Also, it'd be neat if the type of music he decides to play affects the abilities his bankai uses.

Mask wasn't the real problem, it was James. He was a subconscious imaginary hero. So unless James is eliminated, he'll just keep rejuvenating, fighting, and overcome his opponent.

It's plenty strong, problem is Kubo loves matching up people against the one guy or girl who can perfectly counter their power. In this case Rose was matched against a guy not only insane enough to deafen himself immediately but who could both pummel Rose immediately after and also could heal himself instantly.

Can you really blame Rose? If anyone is to blame is Renji for taking too much L’s in the previous arcs. Nerfed a completely OP Bankai to make up for past Renji downfalls 😂

Imagine being a battle-hardened captain who’s trained for centuries, only to be fodder to hype up a several-chapter villain that gets wrecked easily by somebody else who has way less experience than you. But that’s not all! Then you become a zombie slave for some psychotic creep.

I had no problem with the Bankai, only with the writing. Kubo used both Kensei and Rose as fodder to hype-up Mask de Masculine, just so could then use Mask to hype-up Renji... Renji, who doesn't do anything for the remainder of the arc EDIT: Sorry, afterwards Renji did have the huge accomplishment of calling Bazz-B "Chicken-Hair" or something

This is my head canon for this bankais potential evolution/nature. Since its ability revolves around using sound waves, your body and other objects should still be able to ‘hear’ (feel the waves, e.g. explosion sound wave). Therefore, you would still be affected by the bankai even when deaf, but maybe to much smaller degree.

Something a lot of people don’t seem to understand about this fight is that destroying your eardrums is something that would ordinarily leave a person immobilized and not even able to stand. Whether he knew he could heal or not, the pain accompanying that and what should have followed could have crippled him and left him susceptible to a lethal attack. Being able to withstand that says more about Mask than Rose. Also, another thing I wanna bring up. About zanpakutos, it should be noted that all Zanpakuto have a Bankai that correlate to their Shikai. However, it’s less about their element and more about their concept. The main ones that can be given as an example are Soifon’s, whose Zanpakuto focuses on trying to kill the enemy as fast as possible, going from 2 strikes one kill to one strike one kill, and Senjumaru, who can disguise and hide reality with her threads, not mention completely resew the target in the way she wants, to creating tanmonos that have their own realities that are based upon their patterns. Even Kisuke’s. His Benihime is the epitome of adaptability to any situation, and his Bankai further exemplifies that. It’s something that people fail to notice, but Zanpakuto are conceptual beings

Byakuya would puncture his ears as seen when he cut his tendons fighting Zemari

Mr Tommo should be commended for his loyalty, anyways a staunch supporter of the characters that get shafted by the story

One of the big things you wouldn't immediately think about with a character punching a hole in their eardrums is it would irrevocably ruin their sense of balance, they would barely be able to walk in a straight line ever again let alone swing a weapon with any proficiency, mask being able to heal himself really eas an ace that rose could never have accounted for

headcannon synopsis 🤓: the nature of roses bankai is too create any “program” so long as you believe it to be true. He uses sea drift and Prometheus to trap you into believing his deceptive songs, and once captivated or “in a state of believing” rose is able too createee a specific program to defeat his opponent (with a befiting title.). similarities: gremmy’s the visionary. + Shunui’s bankai.

Now that I think about it his bankai might have actually been really strong against Lil and his intangibility. Because of how his bankai works, he doesn't need to touch him directly to damage him. As long as he could hear the melody his brain would think his body is being damaged by its effects

@22:06 I recall Byakuya slicing his tedons VS Zommari. (Not hesitation) Zaraki tearing his "compulsoried" arm off VS Pernida. These characters exist. Just few and far between.

I'm pretty sure that its an established rule that Zanpakuto can only have one element, although it might be possible to fake it. For example, a Zanpakuto might have teh ability to manipulate heat, which would let it create fire and ice, but they all only have one power. Even if we consider Rose being stupid enough to tell his opponent that his power works through sound, how many people would willingly deafen themselves just to counter him? Damaging your inner ear isnt exactly a good thing, it would have a good chance of destroying your balance to start with and most people cant regenerate their eardrums. Technically speaking, you could counter Aizen by blinding yourself, but most people arent going to do that. Thats why Rose was so taken aback when he realized that Mask had destroyed his own eardrums, its an absolutely insane thing to do that most people simply wouldnt.

Part of me really wishes that Mask deafening himself would have prevented James from healing him. It would have made Rose and to a lesser extent Kensei feel like they contributed to Renji’s win, and messed with power scaling less. As is, it made such a cool bankai feel like fodder, and it isn’t like James did much more to contribute after this point anyways.

I really wish masc had just figured it out on his own, it would've made him look much scarier as a villain without making rose look stupid