The Complete Pokémon Timeline is CONFUSING

Pokemon Timeline is confusing? What is CONFUSING is your lack of TIME LYIN next to a WOMAN.

You missed a pretty big part about the Let's Go games. Red and Blue are not the protagonist and rival of those games but are NPCs. Chase and Elaine are the names of the protagonists and Trace is the Rival. They go on the same journey that Red and Blue have in the other timelines. Red and Blue seemingly went on their own journeys previously. However, since the Let's Go protags are the ones who deal with Team Rocket, it seems they went on a slightly different journey then their counterparts of other timelines. That means, the Red and Blue of the mega timeline could still have had their journey in 1996. But the events of the Let's Go games could have happened much closer to Ultra Sun and Moon as Red and Blue are older and with the aforementioned appearance of Mina.

I think you’re making a lot of unnecessary assumptions from the 96 on USUM Red’s shirt. It could instead be his birth year on this timeline. Even if it is the year he started his journey, LGPE has new protagonist/rival characters and only features Red and Blue as secondary characters, which explicitly puts LGPE after Red’s journey. You can totally justify LGPE being on the primary mega timeline.

43:46 u say that as a joke but in b2w2 drayden says he didnt have pokeballs when he was younger even tho legends arceus comfirms that they have existed for a least ~150 years so assuming drayden isnt like 200 years old u can assume that unova has always been pretty disconnected from the rest of the regions

You didn't talk about Looker his personal timeline makes less sense. But does provide better connectivity.

Wait does that mean people in the pokemon world was miss typing some fairy type pokemon as normal for years?

How does such a high quality and well written video only have a couple hundred views? Great video, I especially loved the real world explanation behind why the developers made certain choices!

I'd argue that because of the presence of sylveon and other fairy types in PLA you could place the version of XY that we play at the same time as the "non-mega" B2W2 and have an altered version that matches up more to every other game in the "mega" timeline wherein fairies have long been known about but were predominantly researched in and just before XY

Doesn't it makes more sense to put X&Y, Sword&Shield and Scarlet&Violet in the non-mega timeline and assuming that Sycamore's words on megaevolution being Kalos exclusive is true while BDSP, ORAS and the gen 7 games (including Let's Go) happen on a diferent timeline where both the fairy type and megaevolution are things neither recently discovered nor exclusive to Kalos respectively, more so since in ORAS megaevolution is due to Rayquaza hypercharging Deoxys' meteorite and destroying it before it reaches Earth 1000 years ago rather than AZ's superweapon charging the stones in Kalos 1000 years ago. For Let's Go, being the same timeline as the other gen 7 games and ORAS, the Red and Blue of Let's Go already finished their adventures quite a while ago over being the protagonists, so taking Mina's age into account seems like a more uselfull piece of information to use than Red's shirt to dismiss it as a diferent timeline, in my opinion.

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I always thought that gen 1 to gen 6 (in its original state of ultimate weapon being fired) narrative timeline could still work since nothing in XY itself implied a mega timeline and non mega timeline which only became more fractured and confusing because of USUM and ORAS. Even mega evolution on a gameplay level in XY was setup as something of a rare phenomenon that not many trainers had plus the lack of fairy type and megas in BW2 and older games is just simply a gameplay limitation (even then XY only established fairy as being recently categorised not that it didn’t exist at all, its like how steel and dark didn’t exist in rby but nothing contradicts their existence) rather than a narrative one so it shouldn’t be taken literally. This also would fit with that Masuda interview with not taking the timeline too rigorously as they the games generally provides some outlines but certain things that would contradict things typically are gameplay things. Personally I think the timeline probably would be simpler if ORAS, USUM and lets go were disregarded or isolated completely leaving just the classic og gen1-2 and the most extensive one with gen 3-9 (without ORAS, USUM and lets go) as those three games are more responsible for causing the biggest narrative headaches in this series.

Your Patrick Warburton, I mean your Jasmine impression is on POINT!

Nicely done! I'm surprised at how well things can fit together given how little effort has been put in to make the timeline cohesive.

Amazing video! I must say one thing though, regarding the ”Pokedex expansion”. After gens 1 and 2, the implication has not been that the new generational Pokemon are ”recently discovered”, so that should not be a factor in the timeline placement. This note came to my mind when you used this point to refute the idea that BW2 would be at the same time as XY. All the pokemon that new and are revealed to us every generation, have existed all along in the pokemon world, we just havent seen them as they are not habiting the older regions. In other words, when Red was choosing his starter at the beginning of the timeline in FR/LG, some kid in Unova was choosing his Unovian starter and was ready to capture all the 150+ Unovian Pokemon that he has been accustomed to living there. And at the same time there is some kid in Sinnoh/Alola/any other region, was traveling and catching the local Pokemon as well. Going back to Unova, its whole lore was that it was so far away from other regions that almost no other region’s Pokemon were living there, thus BW1’s lack of old Pokemon before post game. It means that Unovian Pokemon have always lived there and not just recently discovered species. Same with Sinnoh, Alola, Kalos, etc. Also, obviously now we have Hisui which is way before FR/LG and the sinnoh Pokemon (+other region Pokemon loving there) existed were know about already. So in a way, Pokedex expansion and the total number of National dex kind of breaks the 4th wall and is not actually ”all known species in the world, at this time”. Sinnoh very much existed with its Pokemon during the events of 3rd gen games, yet its Pokemon were not in the national dex of FR/LG and R/S

watched this half way through not even realizing how low your sub count and views are, keep up the good work cuz this felt super polished

I really enjoyed this video, never knew the trial captians retire at 20 fact, really liked how deeply you dived into it.

I've been trying to plot out a full timeline with ALL possible splits (from the version you play, to the protagonist, to your starter choice, ect.) for a while now, and this video has helped a lot with providing new info. To explain what I mean, you actually mentioned around 14:02 about not being able to "draw straight lines" between specific versions, but it's not impossible. At the very least, we can disprove certain connections. For example, in Heart Gold you can find Kyogre at the Embedded Tower, after the events of Hoenn have occurred, but Kyogre is never awakened in Ruby, only in Sapphire and Emerald. This means that any timeline with Ruby on it cannot lead to Heart Gold, only Soul Silver, and vice versa with Sapphire, while Emerald could lead to either. In the same vein, if we dip into spinoffs for a bit, Ranger features both Groudon and Kyogre, and even mentions that they're in Fiore to heal after a battle they had after being recently awakened, meaning Ranger can ONLY exist in timelines containing Emerald specifically. Another interesting thing to note is that Mega Salamence is only referenced in Violet, and not Scarlet, which makes me wonder if Scarlet could theoretically exist in a no-Mega timeline. The founding of the Academy was like 800 years ago, making it one of the earliest known splits in the timeline, and I'm not sure what was responsible for the name choice between Naranja and Uva, but maybe Megas had something to do with it? Who knows. The funniest thing I've realized during this endeavor however is the fact that the split caused by the Ultimate Weapon 3000 years ago might not even be the earliest point that a split occurs, for a pretty bizarre reason. In Moon and Ultra Moon, time is inverted, meaning that AM and PM are swapped, the date changes at Noon instead of Midnight, ect. This is a fundamental difference in the very reality of the world compared to every other game in the series, meaning that these two games CANNOT coexist with ANY other game (or even with each other, due to all the plot changes in Ultra), and thus must take place in their own timeline where the the time & date system were invented differently way back in 1500 B.C., and/or the entire planet's rotation was somehow de-synced by 12 hours at some point, which is just wild lol.

Bro ain't no way this guy only has about 1k subs, I enjoyed the entirety of this and now subbed, loved it

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