Kubota vs Kioti Hydraulic System-Definitely different.

Hey Mike love your vids. I looked at a ck3510se last year and saw exactly what your pointing out here. Brought my new ck3520se home today. Night and day difference on splitting the functions in my opinion. They must have figured something out. Was a Kubota owner but once it was time to upgrade I could not spend more for less with them. They’ve gotten a little too proud of their product these days. -Taylor

Update: Kioti must’ve updated the new 20 series because my CK2620 will do both curl and up/down with the front loader as smooth as butter. (Edit: as long as the RPM’s are above 1600) It does however still do the jerky motion up/down on the rear 3 point. Hope this helps some folks. As stated before former Kubota and Deere owner also.

I have driven Kubota, and as you say the dual movement is smooth, which for your case is fine. However, for equivalent models Kioti can lift large logs whereas Kubota fails. I just want to lift a log off the ground and transport it, not do the swan ballet with it. I'd probably go with a blower for snow anyhow.

Good video to help you sell the kubota and keep the kioti. I have nothing but respect for kubota and was seriously going to buy a used/new one but couldn't pull the trigger on one for over a year (was at the dealer more than once). Discovered kioti and bought a kioti ck2620 in a week cuz i knew the kubota numbers inside and out. No regrets.

For the nearly $10k I saved on my Kioti CK2620 cab vs a comparable Kubota LX series or Deere 3 series I can live with the slower hydraulics. I’ve owned a Kubota, Deere, and now Kioti and I like them all but when it comes to lift capacity the Kioti puts the other two comparable sized tractors to shame. For a homeowner who owns a few acres or a small homestead a Kioti is a great tractor based on cost but if I were in a professional business where my butt was in the cab most of the day then I could make a case for the extra cost of the Kubota. Just my thoughts on this.

To anybody who is saying the kioti are significantly less than the Kubota you are wrong. I got multiple prices on both cab models kioti CK 2620 and the Kubota LX 2620. The Kubota actually came out cheaper at $28,500 and the kioti was $29,600 therefore the Kubota was actually cheaper. I have the paperwork right here to prove it.

Great video. Seems that machines days are numbered on your property. Any major work lined up for the summer/spring? We just moved down to Port Stanley from Angus, ON. Hoping to get some work down this way.

Nice video Mike. There are lots of potential tractor buyers out there that don't know that there might be a difference like this between tractors. I hope lots of people get to see your video before they make a decision.

I believe you should be running about 2200 RPM on the new Kioti’s Work out a wee bit, and you will find that sweet spot where you can curl and dump real quick. One thing I like about the coyote, you can certainly lift a little bit more more weight than you can with the Kubota.

Seems like on the kubota you raise it and then dump so not really 2 functions at the same time

Yea I’ve used both and I’ve definitely noticed it do you think Is it the loader valve Kioti used that creates this issue or something deeper

Kubota also costs more so it makes sense as typically you get what you pay for. Personally I have a CK 2620 and I love it no complaints. It has done everything I’ve asked of it and then some

I want a cab, but don’t know if I can part with the l2501. Damn good work horse tractor. Positive my kids will inherit it in good working order if I hang on to her, but the tym and kioti cabs look nice for about what she’s worth…

That was some fantastic visual proof of the differences. I guess it all boils down to what you need and what makes you happy. I guess you needed a cab more than super smooth hydraulics. I guess if 10 - 15K means nothing to you then you can have both in the Kubota.

I've owned two Kioti tractor so far, a subcompact CS series and currently a DK 5320se cab. When I upgraded I looked hard at a Kubota and did lots of test driving different brands. Kubota tractors DO have smoother hydraulics overall. I operate a construction grade wheel loader at my everyday job and the hydraulics on it are better than Kubota's as well. So there are always better options out there. However, in order to get the same lift capacity in a Kubota that I get with my Kioti, I needed to go all the way up to an MX series tractor. That thing is WAY too big for what I do. The DK series hydraulics is better than my CS series tractor was though as far as smoothness and ability to do two functions at the same time. I do agree with you though, Kubota's hydraulics are better than ANY of the other tractor brands I tested and I tested them all. Great video you put out showing this obvious difference in performance.

I think this is the case with many brands in some ways to a degree more or less two functions at once is robbing from the other . I find it to be so on my 753 skidsteer

Just subscribed and enjoying your content. I have a new 2023 Kioti 2620 hst open station and Im coming from a Kubota b1700 from 1999. The Kubota definitely has refined hydraulics but mine doesn't seem as big of a difference as your video. My rear hydraulics on the Kioti does the same as yours and reading up on it from different sources that jerkiness is normal for Kioti's and is called step hydraulics whatever that means. Everyone says to raise fast and then lower where you want it. Overall I'm satisfied with the Kioti. I find higher rpms works better for loader work and using the 2 functions at the same time.

My NX5010HST doesn't have this problem. Maybe it's because of the higher flow rate on the NX chassis.

Do they both have the same gpm? or does the kubota have larger capacity, helping the two circuits happen at the same time. I prefer my komatsu wheel loader to any farm tractor. or any of my skidsteers. visability and hydraulic capacity makes any conventional tractor sad.

I like the smoothness and dual functionality of the Kabota. Definitely helps justify the higher cost of a Kabota.