"You got it". Watch my response to Zak George.

Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. In order for our craft to advance, discussion like this is imperative. Look forward to the comments!

Zak's approach helped me with a dog who responded to it. Yours is helping me with a dog who doesn't. I feel both are balanced; no one is abusing dogs. "Aversive" and "cruel" are far from synonymous.

Reformed ex Petsmart trainer here... Positive reinforcement is best for most situations. I do also agree that other methods are necessary for some dogs too. Corrections are necessary as well. You can't teach your kids with nothing but praise and candy, sometimes they need a time out or grounded.... I completely agree with you

The loose leash method you show us, with the correction, worked wonders on my dog. He has been pulling for 8 years, I have tried so many methods with positive reinforcement, but it never worked. If it worked, it only lasted a short time and my dog was always a fast walker, stressing by my side wanting to go as fast as he could. With the method at the door ("is he with me, or not?"), giving a tug at the leash when he got to the end of the leash, letting him go if he wanted to and then correcting him if he went too far, using multiple stops on a walk to check if he is "with me", well..my dog no longer pulls, he walkes beside me like he has never done anything else. I am beyond happy!!!!!!!! Best wishes from a subscriber in Norway

As a veterinary professional myself, I am confident in my assertion that veterinary professionals don’t know JACK DIDDLY SQUAT about dog behavior/training. They know the physiology, not mentality, of the pets they treat. I am CONSTANTLY having to correct/educate my coworkers and many are left in awe when I am able to do things with some of the more problematic animals that most of them could only dream of bc they just don’t understand basic dog communication and body language.

I want to say thank you to both Joel and Zak for having this conversation and starting it amongst each other communities. I go back in forth between a lot of methods. And I think we all incorporate ideologies from both people. I think this new statement will allow us to all come together once again to see where everyone stands and help each other out. We all want to show love and care for our dogs. We all want them to love and feel the world around us in a positive way. Onward we go!

And this is why I love Beckman. He doesn't bash other trainers or methods but definitely admits when he doesn't align with certain ideas and will tell you why.

I randomly came to this channel after getting a second dog. The second dog was super chill but it was for my first dog where my wife and I had pretty much zero idea how to train an animal and the dog recently had a surgery on it's leg so we needed to be able to control the first dog. Our first dog would basically ignore our commands and would even pee on the couch. It seemed crazy to get a second dog, but we are 99% sure it was our first dog's brother. Anyway, after watching about 10 of your videos and applying what I was seeing in just two days I've noticed a dramatic improvement in our first dog. I'm so glad I found your channel and now know it's okay to do certain things to correct dog behavior when previously we thought it was wrong.

Thank you soooo much!! Really wanted your opinion on this. Since getting my puppy from abroad I've not only had positive trainers try help which hasn't worked with issues I have...but now I have a balanced trainer who agrees with all you say and I've shared your vids with as well as my friends who are all so greatful!! The change in my puppy and older dog are down to your advice! Thank you so much 😀

Preach it! I love that you responded and took a stand on this ridiculous agenda. I like Zak - he's a wonderful at shaping behaviors and I've learned a lot from him to teach tricks. But trainers like you and Tom Davis are teaching practical, real world techniques for dealing with challenging problems. Keep up the good work!

I’ve followed Zak for all my dog training until my latest puppy. I did all the things right but she displays rough play, dominance and was still dog reactive. I believe positive reinforcement is a core foundation but it doesn’t account for poor breeding, and genetics. I’ve had to stray away from that and learn new techniques to build a better quality of life for me and my dogs.

This is exactly why I fostered 15 dogs last year. The owners couldn’t control them because they were afraid to tell the dogs no and gave them up. So sad.

Excellent post. I agree. If these tools become banned here as they are in European countries, you will see a shelter crisis like NEVER before. Glad you posted this... I'll post my retort soon!

You said it best in another video a few weeks ago. The kids (and dogs) that no one wants to to play with on the playground (or dog park) are the ones who are only receiving positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement works until it doesn't. No one wants to be mean. We just want well behaved dogs who can interact with humans and people safely. Thanks so much for your videos. They have helped us so much. Keep it up.

First of all, You do a great job! You are Not wrong I Had the winner of one of the first Meeker CO. World sheep dog championships teach me some things. He said, “does that behavior make you uncomfortable?” I said, “Yes” he said, then make him uncomfortable, as spontaneously as you can and get good at it. He said, if he was right here you could raise your voice or kick dirt or clap your hands. Those are all things that he doesn’t like. At that time I had a nearly finished trial ready border collie who was pushing the sheep too hard on a cross drive 300 yards away. He hollered to me, “take his sheep away” That is what makes the sheepdog most uncomfortable. I blew my whistle hard and laid him down. His sheep moved away while he is was lying down. So in affect, I employed the stop button (no) that I installed on him when we agreed to became puppy, dog and master. So since then I employed that same tactic every time I wanted or needed to intercept the dogs perceived intentions. You know! Like, “no means no!” Every time! Taught early and reinforced often. Hence, I didn’t run into all these problems that need to be “positively reinforced” to correct. It makes no sense. Just MO. PS My brother had the same “people” behavioral problems when he was breaking colts. Rarely is it the dog or horse!

My husky is not food or treat motivated and every "positive only" trainer gave up on him very quickly. With your video's and learning canine body language with a balance of operant punishment and positive reinforcement, my dominate boy was able to be successful in dog parks and he absolutely LOVES dog parks and hanging out with his buds. I have said it before and I will say it again, you are the best. Balto and I thank you.

Mr. Beckman, thank you so much for this video! I feel like your opinion is the balanced one and I love the balanced side of dog training. A few years ago I got my first full blooded Cattle Dog. She is truly an incredible dog and is now actually my service animal as I have a disability and am currently confined to a wheelchair. It was very difficult with my girl at first because even though I was able to teach her many things because of how smart cattle dogs are she didn't respect me because I was physically incapable of backing up what I was telling her. One set of trainers actually advised me to rehome her even though she was glued to my hip because she would never be what I wanted and I would not be able to control her given my disability. But I could not give up on her like that, I knew the potential that she had. She had developed really bad reactivity to other dogs around me due to not being socialized enough as a young puppy because I was very ill at the time. But because I am stubborn, or determined lol and we got with the trainer that we have now and started working with an e-collar. While her reactive behavior has admittedly not gone entirely away it has gotten unimaginably better. She never wanted to hurt anything or anyone, thankfully. She would just simply lose her damn mind, especially on lead. I now work at that training place I began taking her to and I spend my time helping others not give up on high energy, high drive working dogs. I now have Willow, my first Cattle Dog as stated above, Titan, a 6 month old Dutch Shepherd, and I am in process currently of rescuing another heeler puppy. This is important because this is a very ableist statement! I would not have been able to keep my dog safe without the use of e-collars, let alone training them at the level that they are now. There are three main trainers that I watch on YouTube @Beckman'sDogTraining @ZakGeorge'sDogTrainingRevolution and @UpstateCanine if I didn't do the @ correctly I apologize. I've never tried to do them in a YouTube comment before. But please somebody talk about this! I swear to God all positive all the time simply does not work! There has to be balance...and I love Zak George, no shade at all, but you guys people give up on some great dogs! Blessings to all!

Keep up the good work Joel! I’ve learned more from your content than from all the others put together. Did a zoom session with you about a week ago on the Malinois puppy roughing up our toy fox terrier, you were spot on, things are much better. Thanks again!!

I watched your dog domination video, as I was at the end of my rope with my dog bullying me. It changed EVERYTHING! My GSP is 9 moths & was such a handful UNTIL I followed YOUR trying methods! I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH! GOD BLESS YOU & YOUR FAMILY 🤩☺️🙏🤗🙏🙏🙏

I came across Joel's videos by chance, just when we got our puppy, It was meant to be! I love that Joel puts himself out on a limb, this tells me alot about him as a person & the fact he passionately believes in what he does. In a short period we have learnt so much regarding dogs, their behaviour, training, etc & he has made us assess ourselves & our thought process with how we have approached our training. So many dog trainers out there that really have no idea, yes includes many vets & other dog 'experts'. So glad to have found his channel, a bonus for my family & dogs, thank you